Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border

[Thumpalumpacus]

If you shop carefully, a good Epi can be had. I like their Sheraton semi-hollows, and every so often they get a Les Paul or SG right -- like the one I owned.

For acoustics, there's a Taylor 12-string in my future, to join my Yamaha 6er and two electrics.

Taylors can get pretty expensive. Nice guitars, though. How do the Epiphone Les Pauls rate, as far as sound and construction, with their Gibson cousins? I always liked the Gibson Les Paul, but then again, they can be quite expensive. A friend of mine's dad had a '58 model Gibson Les Paul in the oak finish. It had a great sound. I really liked it.

Epi 'Pauls can be good values. The pickups aren't as good as Gibson's, and often see replacement. They've got a long tenon in the set neck, which is better, but generally the wood is of lower quality. Given the QC issues Gibson's been having, I don't know you'd be giving up much in construction, just on materials quality. Tone-wise, they do the Les Paul thing very well, and I'm saying that as a player whose #1 for fifteen years was a 73 LP.

This is not accounting for their Japanese-built Elitist models, which are fantastic guitars and still a solid grand below a Gibby price-wise.

[Pat Mustard]

Well then why were you crowing about it as proof that Mexico would pay for the wall?


Idiot.

He was just answering the question of how it would be paid for. When you call him an idiot or a racist you give him the opportunity to ignore legitimate arguments and just focus on the insults  

A better question would be: why does he still support the Wall now that he knows we are paying for it?

Calling a theist an idiot isn't so much an insult as a description. Anyway no matter how I phrased my rebuttal he was either going to lie abot it (as in his first response) or focus on an irrelevat point. It's his Modus Operandi.

[The Grand Nudger]

It doesn't matter, to a racist, who pays for it. It doesn't matter, to an idiot, that they're wrong about something.

Responding to these racist people as though they were someone else, or these idiotic ideas as though they were something else....is pointless.

[Aristocatt]

Interesting probably not so talked about consequence of the wall:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/60352...vironment/

According to the estimates from the above article roughly 7.8 Million metric tons of CO2 emissions will be created as a consequence of building the wall.
It's not a massive amount in the grand scheme of things, but it's still interesting to think about. Often times when we go through with massive projects like this, the cost-benefit analysis doesn't consider the indirect ecological impact. Often times without regulations, direct ecological impact isn't considered either.

[abaris]

According to the estimates from the above article roughly 7.8 Million metric tons of CO2 emissions will be created as a consequence of building the wall.
It's not a massive amount in the grand scheme of things, but it's still interesting to think about.  Often times when we go through with massive projects like this, the cost-benefit analysis doesn't consider the indirect ecological impact.  Often times without regulations, direct ecological impact isn't considered either.

Since the orange turd is also a climate change denier, he probably couldn't care less.

[The Grand Nudger]

 Often times without regulations, direct ecological impact isn't considered either.

Not the case with border walls....they always come packaged with specific exemptions to a bevy of things, including environmental regulations, and the endangered species act.  The direct cost is known, considered, and overruled. As are property rights, etc.

[Amarok]

It doesn't matter, to a racist, who pays for it.  It doesn't matter, to an idiot, that they're wrong about something.

Responding to these racist people as though they were someone else, or these idiotic ideas as though they were something else....is pointless.

Indeed why beat around the bush. Being nice to a Racist Xenophobe fool is like dusting a dirt floor pointless .

I'm not here to make friends  with there ilk. I'm here to scorn them when they push there nonsense and lies.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's clearly been working, since they're chiefly consumed with denying their racism and asking idiotic questions..like "what's racist about that?".  Even -they- feel the need to distance themselves from their own impulses. I miss the overt and comfortable racists of my youth.....at least those folks were respectable, in their own way. Now they're a bunch of self deluding, self loathing morons.

[Amarok]

It's clearly been working, since they're chiefly consumed with denying their racism and asking idiotic questions..like "what's racist about that?".  

Or other favorites like. I'm not racist because I have black friends. Or I'm not racist because a black person once praised me at formal even that's was to my advantage. Or I hire black people and exploit there talent for my personal gain so I can't be racist. Or that group isn't a race i just mean race when I say it  but i am to much of a pussy to just be honest  about it. Or my personal favorite I'm just concerned about X

[scoobysnack]

Well, here's some of the essential points as to why a border wall would be a dumb idea.





And here are his sources. It should cover every point made in the video, plus a good number of points from the rest of the episode.

Simply put, the drawbacks, such as... :

• Being the biggest and most expensive architectural boondoggle in American history, a project of such magnitude that has only been pulled off once in recorded history; and it will cost even more than $20 million when you take into account staffing and maintaining it so the work of enforcing it can actually happen.
  
• Having to span 2000 miles, which includes everything from mountains and rivers to villages and people's homes and even splitting a college campus in two. You really don't think this is going to cause serious trouble, especially given that Mexico clearly doesn't want to play ball.
  
• A surprisingly high number of illegal immigrants coming in with methods that would not be affected, from the cartels' tunnels to simple visa fraud and airplanes. 
  
• Its being unpopular, particularly along the border, with 72% of Americans at the border (and more on the Mexican side) being against it.
  

... Outweigh any benefits, especially given that this is an extremely shitty time, since that actual border crossings are actually a lot lower than they have been; the fact that the only border between two nations that aren't officially killing each other that's more militarised than US-Mexico border today is the border between North and South Korea.

Also, if you opposed Obamacare mainly because you were afraid we'd still be paying for its implementation generations from now, you have no business being for this shit, since this would be worse in every way, more money for even less return.

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Having the wall will make me feel better and that's very important.

Really bro?! College humor as your source? hahaha

Damn this is the resistance we are dealing with lol. Mexico is building a wall right now on it's southern border to prevent people from traveling through Mexico to the US. We already have 7000 miles of fence, and this is just an extension.

This guy think's Mexico should unleash the cartels to bring drugs and people across the border to punish us for the wall lol

http://www.infowars.com/ex-official-call...ish-trump/

Isn't that the reason we are building it, and the reason Mexico sucks as a country because they are controlled by the cartels who fuck up their political system. How about we fix Mexico, or they fix themselves. Talk about a joke of a country, to be in 2017 and can't get their shit together! Where's the leader who wants to make Mexico great again? We need that!