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~~ErGingerbreadMandude~~ · January 21, 2017 at 10:18 am

Of course yes! Especially if it's a close member.

Mermaid · January 21, 2017 at 10:23 am

Yes. I would do everything I could to give them whatever the fuck they wanted. In that situation, it's not about the Greater Good, it's about the life of a specific person I love.

~~ErGingerbreadMandude~~

(January 21, 2017 at 10:23 am)Mermaid Wrote: Yes. I would do everything I could to give them whatever the fuck they wanted. In that situation, it's not about the Greater Good, it's about the life of a specific person I love.

Besides, I don't think there is any "greater good" behind "we don't negotiate with terrorists", it's just another made up reason by someone that don't really give a fuck.

Mermaid · January 21, 2017 at 11:07 am

(January 21, 2017 at 11:02 am)pool the great Wrote:
(January 21, 2017 at 10:23 am)Mermaid Wrote: Yes. I would do everything I could to give them whatever the fuck they wanted. In that situation, it's not about the Greater Good, it's about the life of a specific person I love.

Besides, I don't think there is any "greater good" behind "we don't negotiate with terrorists", it's just another made up reason by someone that don't really give a fuck.

That is very short-sighted.

~~ErGingerbreadMandude~~ · January 21, 2017 at 12:58 pm

(January 21, 2017 at 11:07 am)Mermaid Wrote:
(January 21, 2017 at 11:02 am)pool the great Wrote: Besides, I don't think there is any "greater good" behind "we don't negotiate with terrorists", it's just another made up reason by someone that don't really give a fuck.

That is very short-sighted.

Perhaps. But if you really loved someone you'd do it anyway.

downbeatplumb · January 21, 2017 at 1:02 pm

(January 19, 2017 at 10:33 am)robvalue Wrote: Imagine that one of your loved ones has been kidnapped. You have been sent proof of life and a ransom demand for a large amount of money. Between you and everyone you know, you can just about scrape the money together but it will leave you broke.

The people holding your loved one are unknown, as is their location. Experts have no advice or assurances they can give you. You have no guarantee whatsoever that if you pay the money, your loved one will be returned, except the word of the kidnappers. The way you pay isn't important, but you can assume there's no chance of catching them this way.

Would you pay?

The best way for a kidnapper to be caught is from something the survivor tells the authorities, so they cant be relied on.
Paying them would only encourage them to do it again.

Thumpalumpacus · (This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

For myself, I say don't negotiate for my ass. I've lived a good life and am useless as a slave. Plus, I'm betting that I could goad them into killing me just to shut me the fuck up.

For a loved one, I'd have to consider the circumstances. For my son, yep, I'd scrape up the dough ... and arm up, too. Because someone's got to pick up the money sometime, and they would have a lot of useful information, I imagine.

(January 19, 2017 at 10:37 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Nope. If they are that smart and callous, why would they let the hostage witness live?

More to the point.

**robvalue** · (This post was last modified: January 29, 2017 at 12:29 pm by robvalue.)

I wouldn't want anyone to pay for me, no. There is no incentive for me to be released, even if the money is paid. Whatever is going to happen to me is almost certainly going to happen either way. I wouldn't want my loved ones to bankrupt themselves on top of that, or to give money to these people.

Interesting, the poll currently has an exact split 7/7 yes/no!

paulpablo · January 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm

(January 29, 2017 at 12:28 pm)robvalue Wrote: I wouldn't want anyone to pay for me, no. There is no incentive for me to be released, even if the money is paid. Whatever is going to happen to me is almost certainly going to happen either way. I wouldn't want my loved ones to bankrupt themselves on top of that, or to give money to these people.

Interesting, the poll currently has an exact split 7/7 yes/no!

I'd save you Rob, like schwarzenegger saved Jenny.

**robvalue** · January 29, 2017 at 2:02 pm

Cheers

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