The WLB Will Be Shrieking Like Someone Took A Blowtorch To His Balls

[Jeanne]

Hello all.

What is wrong with providing a photo-ID in order to vote? A 2016 Gallup Poll shows that voter ID laws are favored by 80% of all Americans.

The voter fraud done in my county in this century has been perpetrated by Democrats. It is my understanding that voter suppression has always been the way the Democrat Party has worked their districts in Chicago and other cities.

Do you remember the Black Panthers standing outside the voting place smacking their nightsticks against their hands and scowling at people going in to vote for or against Obama? That's voter suppression. They were using scare tactics to "persuade" people to vote for Obama, a Democrat. I remember men at the voting place in my home town, who gave small bottles of liquor to blacks so they would vote the right way...Democrat.

I have to show my ID for Sudafed for pete's sake. I have to show my ID at all my doctors offices and to board a plane and to rent a car, buy a car or get a credit card or open a bank account. Do you have to show ID to buy tobacco and alcohol or only if you don't look ancient? Are there really people who cannot get a photo-ID? If there are, then why can't they get a photo-ID?

If the state provides free photo-IDs then what is the problem? I want to know that citizens vote only once. Don't you?

-Jeanne

[Jackalope]

Sure.

A conservative judge's devastating take on why voter ID laws are evil

BTW, the majority of vote fraud in this century is a result of GOP gerrymandering and the Voter ID laws you prefer, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of an uninformed rant.

[Jeanne]

Hello Cthulhu Dreaming.

Your facts, my facts, your opinion, my opinion...

But...I am uninformed and you are...what exactly? Automatically superior because you think you are correct and whatever you write is wisdom that falls like pearls onto this forum?

That's funny.

-Jeanne

[Jackalope]

Hello Cthulhu Dreaming.

Your facts, my facts, your opinion, my opinion...

But...I am uninformed and you are...what exactly?  Automatically superior because you think you are correct and whatever you write is wisdom that falls like pearls onto this forum?

That's funny.

-Jeanne

That's pretty rich, considering the amount of unsourced opinion in your own post. LOL, seriously. You're really one to call someone out for posting opinion.

Care to comment on the linked material?

[Pat Mustard]

Hello all.

What is wrong with providing a photo-ID in order to vote?  A 2016 Gallup Poll shows that voter ID laws are favored by 80% of all Americans.

It's one thing to require some form of photographic ID. It's another to invent a one specially for elections, charge significant money for it and then implement it so that only minorities and other Democrat voting demographics ever get asked for it. That's the problem.

The voter fraud done in my county in this century has been perpetrated by Democrats.

What voter fraud are you talking about. The only documented case of voter fraud in 2016 was a woman trying to vote twice for Drumpfuck.

Do you remember the Black Panthers standing outside the voting place smacking their nightsticks against their hands and scowling at people going in to vote for or against Obama?  That's voter suppression.  They were using scare tactics to "persuade" people to vote for Obama, a Democrat.  I remember men at the voting place in my home town, who gave small bottles of liquor to blacks so they would vote the right way...Democrat.

Bullshit. This whole paragraph is as truthful as the "paedophile prostitution ring out of a pizzeria basement" story Der Sturmerbart published during the election.

Hey I've got a good idea. Why don't you agitate for the running and monitoring of all US elections to be taken out of political hands? Give civil servants and citizens who are known not to be members of any party control over the running and policing of elections. I bet you wouldn't dare, because you know that your beloved Republitraitor party would be put into permanent opposition starting in 2018 once all US citizens were fairly allowed the right to vote (or do you not realise that your own party illegally disenfrancised over ten million of your fellow citizens). You're talking about a few (and mostly fake) minor incidents, yet you will not go after the massive proven voter fraud.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Voter suppression is the heart of the Grim Old Party's election strategy.

But not specifically Trumps, unless Trump is a TX pub in disguise.

T.rump rode the Greasy Old Party's wagon to the abattoir. He gets no pass.

[Jeanne]

I will get back to you.  My entire post just disappeared when I tried to move a sentence.  Not the first time on this site, so I am going to write it and then copy and paste.

-Jeanne

[Minimalist]

You wanted a direct tie-in to the WLB, MH?  Here it is.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/the-trum...-voter-id/

The Trump administration lost again in court, this time on voter ID

In February, the new administration abruptly abandoned the crux of the Justice Department’s opposition to the voter ID law. Government lawyers also asked the judge to delay her decision on whether the law intentionally discriminated against blacks and Latinos.

Judge Nelva Ramos Gonzales rejected their request for a delay. And Monday, she ruled that the law “was passed, at least in part, with a discriminatory intent in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.”

One of the first things that the WLB and his racist AG did on taking office.  Imagine that.

[Jeanne]

Hello Cthulhu Dreaming.

Your facts, my facts, your opinion, my opinion...

But...I am uninformed and you are...what exactly?  Automatically superior because you think you are correct and whatever you write is wisdom that falls like pearls onto this forum?

That's funny.

-Jeanne

That's pretty rich, considering the amount of unsourced opinion in your own post.  LOL, seriously.  You're really one to call someone out for posting opinion.

Care to comment on the linked material?

I am doubtful that an up and coming young man has never seen his birth certificate.  He should get it from his parents.  Surely he has a drivers license, a passport, a banking account or a marriage license (if married) and would have needed to present a birth certificate for these.  When his parents entered him into school, they would have needed a birth certificate.

But there are other ways of proving who you are and where you live than birth certificates that are acceptable.  States that will provide ID free of cost to their citizens who do not have one will avoid having any whining over the need to show it.  

According to that Gallop Poll done in 2016, 63% of Democrats polled thought voter ID was a good idea. 80% of all Americans polled approved too.  

Surely you saw the Black Panther video?  And my own experiences with voter fraud and suppression are from my past, yet the most recent one may have gone to court.  I think it was handled otherwise, however, to spare the local NAACP the embarrassment of having their president charged.  He shortly left for greener pastures.

So..it still remains that most citizens want voter ID and we want it for the reasons stated before; to ensure that only living citizens vote and they only vote once.  That means all votes are valid and none are made invalid by fraudulent voting.

How is this suppression?  I mean can you tell me exactly why you consider requiring an ID as suppression?  If it is then so is requesting an ID for Sudafed or for any of the other reasons that we must show ID.  I have never heard Leftists whine over that fact.

-Jeanne

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Hi Tazzycorn.

In my previous post I wrote of the 63% of Democrats who wanted voter ID laws and 80% of all Americans polled agreed.  If states provide IDs at no cost then that should satisfy those who claim it is a hardship.

My experiences cited were in my home town and my home county...not country.  Democrats did indeed "encourage" blacks with bottles of booze.  The NAACP president did indeed commit voter fraud using absentee ballots.

The Black Panthers did indeed stalk the voting place intimidating voters.

I do not love the Republicans.  I do not love the Democrats.

I do not accept the nonsense of Pizza Gate.  I do not like Alex Jones.

Would you cite evidence of the Republican Party acting to illegally disenfranchise over ten million of our fellow citizens please? 

When the other woman running…Green Party, oh it was Jill Stein, I think, sued Wisconsin (?) didn't it ultimately reveal that the fraud was on the part of the Democrat Party and not the Republican Party as she claimed?

I remember something like that  getting shuffled in the news.

-Jeanne

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My original but vanished post mentioned gerrymandering, so I will talk about that since somebody must have mentioned that as the way the Republicans steal elections.

Locally, gerrymandering was used in this century to ensure that a black person only would win an seat on the county council, which was not a bad idea except that it has not served the constituents of that district well, yet.

Obviously the controlling party is the one who gets to set up what sort of districting and redistricting they want. In many major cities, the Democrats have been in control for decades, so any gerrymandering has been to their benefit. And…gerrymandering for Republican benefit has worked the same way. Unless…the elected officials actually work to benefit all citizens.

So..we have in my county…not country…districts that shift the power to the north-end of the county, which divides rural from city and also districts that divide towns so we can put a black in office.

In the 2014 election the Democrats in my state sought to keep a long-time politician in office by creating his district strictly in his home city, but it didn't work and we lost a hardworking and influential man of integrity to the Republican sweep. They didn't seem to realize that there were more citizens outside the new district, both Republican and Democrat who vote for retaining him. The districts lost many experienced Democrats during that ridiculous sweep of 2014.

At the same time, the Democrats in my state gerrymandered to divide the two Republicans that represented the most rural counties of the state and we unfortunately lost a young firebrand backed by the Tea Party who represented his district well.

In my state a Republican won the governorship, but the state is still ruled by long-time Democrats and it is doubtful that the governor will remain in office.

I agree that gerrymandering is rotten to the core and that when used strictly to divide and conquer is an act against the citizenry. But…it is under the control of the party in power and is not at all a tool used only by Republicans.

-Jeanne

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I am so sorry. I don't know why my posts are all together like this. I will try to get this site and my computer to work better together.

-Jeanne

[Jeanne]

Hello all.

What is wrong with providing a photo-ID in order to vote?  A 2016 Gallup Poll shows that voter ID laws are favored by 80% of all Americans.

It's one thing to require some form of photographic ID. It's another to invent a one specially for elections, charge significant money for it and then implement it so that only minorities and other Democrat voting demographics ever get asked for it. That's the problem.

The voter fraud done in my county in this century has been perpetrated by Democrats.

What voter fraud are you talking about. The only documented case of voter fraud in 2016 was a woman trying to vote twice for Drumpfuck.

Do you remember the Black Panthers standing outside the voting place smacking their nightsticks against their hands and scowling at people going in to vote for or against Obama?  That's voter suppression.  They were using scare tactics to "persuade" people to vote for Obama, a Democrat.  I remember men at the voting place in my home town, who gave small bottles of liquor to blacks so they would vote the right way...Democrat.

Bullshit. This whole paragraph is as truthful as the "paedophile prostitution ring out of a pizzeria basement" story Der Sturmerbart published during the election.

Hey I've got a good idea. Why don't you agitate for the running and monitoring of all US elections to be taken out of political hands? Give civil servants and citizens who are known not to be members of any party control over the running and policing of elections. I bet you wouldn't dare, because you know that your beloved Republitraitor party would be put into permanent opposition starting in 2018 once all US citizens were fairly allowed the right to vote (or do you not realise that your own party illegally disenfrancised over ten million of your fellow citizens). You're talking about a few (and mostly fake) minor incidents, yet you will not go after the massive proven voter fraud.

Hello Tazzycorn.

You may have missed my question to you in the posts of mine that got all jumbled together.  It was in reference to this statement that you made above concerning the ten million of our fellow citizens that were illegally disenfranchised by the Republican Party.

It is not my party, by the way.  I am a Conservative Libertarian if anything and vote accordingly for the person without regard to party.

I asked you for evidence of this or, if there is none, that you explain why you feel these citizens were denied... by the  Republican Party... the right to vote in this recent election.

-Jeanne