Two dead after hate crime in Portland

[John V]

I forgot the link regarding NY hate crimes above. Here it is:
http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/...016-109621

[Jackalope]

Seattle network news is reporting that somebody robbed the 53 year-old man who died at the scene.

[Clueless Morgan]

What's sick about that whole thing to me is that a couple of my old friends supported that bullshit one was actually considering joining them.

Try being related to this kind of person.

Update on the Portland protests this weekend:

14 arrested as the many extremes of Portland collide in protest
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/04/us/portlan...index.html

From the CNN video in the link:

"Joey Gibson was the organizer of this [rally].  He said he wanted everybody to love each other, he said it's okay to be Christian in America, and he said he also wanted both sides, he said he wanted the far right to denounce anybody who is racist and he wanted the far left to say if someone is being violent or ultra communist or whatever they should denounce that.  In a way he was calling for peace on both sides."

(1) It has ALWAYS been acceptable - dare I say encouraged - for people to be Christian in America.  This guy has his wires crossed here.
(2) Not all racists are on the far right.
(3) Not all violent or violence-causing people are on the far left.

This guy should start by not oversimplifying the situation.


From another article on the event and Joey Gibson:
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/04/531485455/...ing-groups

"Gibson told [the reporter] that he attended the Republican National Convention last year, became an activist after that and decided that conservatives, libertarians, the alt-right, that they need a street presence that can really match protesters on the left.

...

Portland is one of the West Coast's most liberal cities. But the murders last week really changed the atmosphere here. The suspect in the murders had attended Gibson's last rally. And during his arraignment this week, he sort of parroted language that the alt-right uses shouting free speech or die and death to anti-fascists. And so that made this particularly sensitive. And then on the flip side, people on the right said, why can't we have a pro-Donald Trump rally in Portland? And the efforts to suppress this just prove our point about how our speech isn't welcome.

...

[When asked if it was a pro-Trump rally or anti-other-people rally]
There are some people who sounds like they're speaking in coded language about American values and who's American. And there are some large signs that say things like, if you're here illegally, go back home, so arguably, against other people. But I've also met, you know, some grandmothers who just say they're here because they're fans of Donald Trump. And I even met one young gay man who is in the pro-Trump group..."


Wheeler did not help calm the situation when he tried to get the permits for this march cancelled.  The pro-Trump people have the right to gather and did it in the right way (getting the permits and needed permissions, etc.).  There's nothing wrong with people supporting their chosen political figures (even if I personally find the figure revolting in every conceivable way) and there's nothing wrong with people counter-protesting.  There IS something wrong with anyone at those protests turning violent for any reason, and there IS something wrong with the mayor trying to get one side's right to gather revoked.  It was very insensitive to hold this rally so soon after the MAX train attack, but that is the fault of the organizers deciding to go forward with the event, it wasn't Wheeler's place to get them shut down.



In related news to the stabbing victims from the MAX train:

Man removed MAX victim's wedding ring as he lay dying, police say
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...ax_vi.html

The guy who stole the stabbing victim's wedding ring and backpack has been found and arrested.

[A Theist]

Is there evidence he backed Trump?

From what I've seen he was for Sanders:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/portla...supporter/

Trump is usually the racists candidate of choice

The Dems lost the presidency because of their stupidity. They lost their largest and most loyal voting base in the rust belt and coal states, some states that hadn't voted for a Republican in better than forty years. These were the white blue collar working class voters. The same voters who put obama in the White House for two terms. If the democrat dumb fucks want to win seats in the mid terms they better lay off the racist bullshit and figure out how they're going to win back their once largest voting base. Otherwise, figure on Republicans maintaining a majority in the House and Senate. But, the dumbasses on the left never learn.

[downbeatplumb]

Trump is usually the racists candidate of choice

The Dems lost the presidency because of their stupidity. They lost their largest and most loyal voting base in the rust belt and coal states, some states that hadn't voted for a Republican in better than forty years. These were the white blue collar working class voters. The same voters who put obama in the White House for two terms. If the democrat dumb fucks want to win seats in the mid terms they better lay off  the racist bullshit and figure out how they're going to win back their once largest voting base.  Otherwise, figure on Republicans maintaining a majority in the House and Senate. But, the dumbasses on the left never learn.

And yet Trump is the racists candidate of choice. I am not a democrat I'm a brit Hi from the UK.

[Amarok]

The Dems lost the presidency because of their stupidity. They lost their largest and most loyal voting base in the rust belt and coal states, some states that hadn't voted for a Republican in better than forty years. These were the white blue collar working class voters. The same voters who put obama in the White House for two terms. If the democrat dumb fucks want to win seats in the mid terms they better lay off  the racist bullshit and figure out how they're going to win back their once largest voting base.  Otherwise, figure on Republicans maintaining a majority in the House and Senate. But, the dumbasses on the left never learn.

Yup because people in those states are morons who voted for a white supremacist darling. And fucked themselves over in the process . All in the name of some nostalgic delusion . And because Clinton told them what they didn't wanna hear or want own up to . That there fantasy of the good ol days is dead. And there willing to put potential fascist in charge ad tolerant the neo Nazi ditto heads who worship him . And in the name" taking America back" . It's not the Dems that need to learn a lesson. It's the dumb fucks who are stuck in the past and are willing to suck the dick of the first loud mouth  who comes along to sell them  nostalgic snake oil .

[A Theist]

The Dems lost the presidency because of their stupidity. They lost their largest and most loyal voting base in the rust belt and coal states, some states that hadn't voted for a Republican in better than forty years. These were the white blue collar working class voters. The same voters who put obama in the White House for two terms. If the democrat dumb fucks want to win seats in the mid terms they better lay off  the racist bullshit and figure out how they're going to win back their once largest voting base.  Otherwise, figure on Republicans maintaining a majority in the House and Senate. But, the dumbasses on the left never learn.

Yup because people in those states are morons who voted for a white supremacist darling. And fucked themselves over in the process . All in the name of some nostalgic delusion . And because Clinton told them what they didn't wanna hear or want own up to . That there fantasy of the good ol days is dead. And there willing to put potential fascist in charge ad tolerant the neo Nazi ditto heads who worship him . And in the name" taking America back" . It's not the Dems that need to learn a lesson. It's the dumb fucks who are stuck in the past and are willing to suck the dick of the first loud mouth  who comes along to sell them  nostalgic snake oil .

As bad as your spelling is I'm surprised you were able to spell dick and fuck. Don't you guys have public education in Canada? Continue​ to offer nothing else but verbal assaults to those voters and I can see the dumbasses on the left losing another election in the midterms here. Which is fine. The miserable left is a cancer in this country.

[Crunchy]

The stats indicate that hate crimes are up and it's probably because of Trump.

Can you link to that?

https://csbs.csusb.edu/hate-and-extremism-center

Ever heard of google? 
The increase in hate crimes is common knowledge unless you're a moron who only watches Fox, only reads Breitbart, and only listens to conservative talk radio. You know, the MSM.

[Lek]

Witnesses: Man Cut the Throats of Two MAX Passengers Who Tried to Stop Anti-Muslim Bullying of Women on Northeast Portland Train

http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/...assengers/

Trump's hate is even infiltrating the liberal bastion of Portland.

Two men were stabbed / had their throats cut by another rider who was hurling anti immigrant slurs at two dark skinned women, one in a head dress.

:'-(

Yeah. The attacker can make the case in court that Trump made him do it.

[Kosh]

Yup because people in those states are morons who voted for a white supremacist darling. And fucked themselves over in the process . All in the name of some nostalgic delusion . And because Clinton told them what they didn't wanna hear or want own up to . That there fantasy of the good ol days is dead. And there willing to put potential fascist in charge ad tolerant the neo Nazi ditto heads who worship him . And in the name" taking America back" . It's not the Dems that need to learn a lesson. It's the dumb fucks who are stuck in the past and are willing to suck the dick of the first loud mouth  who comes along to sell them  nostalgic snake oil .

As bad as your spelling is I'm surprised you were able to spell dick and fuck. Don't you guys have public education in Canada? Continue to offer nothing else but verbal assaults to those voters and  I can see the dumbasses on the left losing another election in the midterms here. Which is fine. The miserable left is a cancer in this country.

The right has control over everything....

Are you personally winning yet?  Better healthcare situation for your family?  Better working conditions and pay?  Less scared to go to bed at night?  Happy to see all the law, order, and harmony your furor has produced? 

You must be exhausted for all the winning you conservatives are doing.  You folks should be like Charlie Sheen with a ki of coke and a harem of porn stars.

Your party can't even repeal Obamacare for fuck sakes.  They are scared shitless to fuck their idiot constituents who've been told to hate the affordable heath act, but are currently enjoying the ability to see a doctor without selling the last goat.  Its pretty fucking easy to look like the big tough anti-Obama conservative and oppose something when you know the President will veto it.  Once they had the power it became apparent that they are totally incapable of governing.

The Dems probably will lose the midterms.  Ignorance breeds contempt, fear, hate, and stupidity.  That appears firmly entrenched in Murrica, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.  Some financial shitstorm will happen, people will be hurting, they'll put the xenophobic pro-gun anti-globalism bullshit on hold, and elect a Democrat.  Once shit gets turned around, they will let their abhorrent behavior out of the closet and elect a Repub.  To make Murrica great again..again..