Poor Kathy Griffin

[Brian37]

Jesus has this woman not suffered enough . You would think she fire bombed a children's hospital or something. It amazes me the right will use free speech as a way to defend every piece of alt right garbage . But when comedian attacks there lord and savior all of a sudden the rules change

But again, what she did while wrong, and ill advised, she was not running for office. When a politician makes "2nd Amendment" comments about rivals, WHILE RUNNING, that is dangerous. 

And if anyone noticed during his Poland speech, he attacked Obama, the news media again, and intel AGAIN. But, what did the GOP supporters do to a COUNTRY band named the Dixy Chicks? 

And again, the difference between the Dixy Chicks and Trump doing the same things, is that the Dixy Chicks were not politicians in office. 

There is a far different protocol for someone running for office or holding office. Trump vilified multiple groups and journalists and our allies but worst off, the very 17 agencies he now has to depend on.

There is simply NO practical way he can lead with all the damage he has caused over the past year.

[Court Jester]

Winning is largely what matter in life. Yes. I built my own business by winning and I have a book by Jack Welch sitting right here on my desk titled "WINNING". The strongest people in life are winners and those that aren't as strong look down on them for that. And even that is beautiful and comical to listen to.That's why I don't support welfare, paying for someone's birth control, and I am 100% perfectly okay with 22 million losing health insurance. If they did better in life and worked for what they wanted/needed, it wouldn't be an issue. They wouldn't be losing it because they would have already "EARNED" it. I don't have much sympathy for the lazy. I would much rather a portion of my earnings go to the insurance for myself, my family, and my employees, and their family rather than middle age people that aspire to work at the McDonald's drive. There's still welfare and social security though, so those that truly "NEED" it will be okay.

And he didn't really dangle much of a carrot in anyone's face. More so than not, he made it pretty clear what carrot others would not be getting. And that's perfectly okay in my book, and obviously okay with the folks that voted him into office.

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The crying and protests wont change anything from either side. May as well laugh... right?

NO you fucking moron, winning is not all there is to life.

Not even evolution claims that. 

Our species has a wide variety of attributes not just one. Our species can use force, and cheating to win and cruelty to win, that part is true. But we also have the attributes of nurture and empathy and compassion, and those work too. 

"Win" only means you won, it does not automatically make you moral. Hitler rose to power and won, and if he had not attacked Russia Stupidly he might have been able to keep his gains. His supporters thought he was doing the right thing they thought he was a "winner" too.

The Kim family won and took over North Korea. The Castro Family won and took over Cuba. Stalin won and took over Russia. Now they were winners too. So please don't blow fucking smoke up my ass and claim winning is all there is to life.

Winning with political demagoguery are the actions of dictators and despots and banana republics. In a 1rst world western open society our politicians cannot and should not act like that. Stop ignoring the fact that Trump is no longer a private citizen.

Heck man. I donate too. Nothing wrong with that at all and I encourage it. But I'm also selective about who and what organizations I donate to as well. If you do it right, you save more on taxes by giving more to someone/something besides the government. That’s the concept of trickledown economics that people hate. Save more by spending more.

And winning really, really, really, reeeeaaaallllyyyyy is largely what matters. Empathy and compassion can be a part of that at times, but our species didn’t get where it is by being overly empathetic either. I’m sure that there have been a lot of cave men clubbed to death for a hunk of meat over the years. They won and that’s how evolution worked. Another large part of winning is the sustainability of gains and growth. You can’t do that without a little empathy and compassion; and that’s how evolution continued. However, too much empathy and compassion will quickly put you at the back of the line too. That’s how people have evolved to accept (and expect in far too many cases) welfare handouts, “free” health insurance, and the losing team at the baseball game taking home a trophy. It’s gone as far down as grown men and woman crying and being completely unable to accept that their guy or gal didn’t win an election. The winners just look back, shake their head, and giggle as they keep moving forward though. And that last part right there is what ensures long term sustainability.

[Amarok]

There are so many fallacies and so many errors  in this post I lost count. And it just became compressed mass of absurdity .

[The Grand Nudger]

Cmon CJ, where's the Pepe meme?  You're slippin.

[Court Jester]

Cmon CJ, where's the Pepe meme?  You're slippin.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pepe+mem...NnvjYmJixM:

[John V]

Kathy's allowed to do what she did.

People are allowed to stop watching her TV shows or buying tickets to her performances.

That's pretty much it.

[Brian37]

Kathy's allowed to do what she did.

People are allowed to stop watching her TV shows or buying tickets to her performances.

That's pretty much it.

And I am allowed as a fellow liberal to tell her what she did was not wise.

I love how you fucking flip. Be consistent Ted did far worse because his was not simply a bad joke, it was a direct threat to Obama. He also at one concert threatened Hillary too.

And what you forget just like CJ is that neither Kathy or Ted are in public office.

You and I are private citizens. As a person running for office or a politician in office your role is that of diplomat, not Jerry Springer Guest.

Do not hand me any fucking shit, that if it was Kathy running for office instead of Hillary, that you would find it ok for that to be done on an OFFICIAL political website by the candidate themselves?

Don't tell me if Obama had put a picture of McCain or Romney on his political page while running, a "joke" with either of them with decapitated heads.

TRUMP doesn't have to go even that far. His followers hear him shout "lock her up" and "2nd Amendment" he cant simply chalk that off to a "joke". 

You keep missing the point like others here that there is a HUGE difference between the blasphemy and ridicule done by private citizens and the private sector media, and a politician in office. 

The thing you have to ask yourself to know POLITICIANS cannot and should not vilify media or entire groups of people, is to ask yourself if it would be ok if the opposition party could do the same things while running or in office.

If your answer is no, then you should not tolerate Trump's tactics.

If it would not be ok for Hillary or Obama to make 2nd Amendment jokes about rivals, if it would not be ok for Hillary or Obama to vilify entire groups of people, if it would not be ok for them to shit on those who served in the military, if it would not be ok for Hillary or Obama to attack rivals or the press overseas, LIKE TRUMP DID AGAIN TODAY, then why is it ok for Trump to do that?

I am sick of people not understanding the language used in the private sector as a private non politician, and the role of a politician.

[Amarok]

Yeah jester you can take your pseudo philosophical Social Darwinian, Laisse Faire, Randian , \Winner worship , and stuff it

[John V]

Kathy's allowed to do what she did.

People are allowed to stop watching her TV shows or buying tickets to her performances.

That's pretty much it.

And I am allowed as a fellow liberal to tell her what she did was not wise.

I love how you fucking flip.

Flip? WTF are you talking about? Are you talking to the right person??

[Brian37]

Yeah jester you can take your pseudo philosophical Social Darwinian, Laisse Faire, Randian , \Winner worship , and stuff it

If all it takes to life is "winning" then he should worship Stalin, the Castro family and the Kim family who run North Korea.

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And I am allowed as a fellow liberal to tell her what she did was not wise.

I love how you fucking flip.

Flip? WTF are you talking about? Are you talking to the right person??

If you don't support Trump, then I will admit I misunderstood. If you do then you still are missing the message of what I am saying.

But to be fair even those on the left in this thread are also getting stuck on private citizens when I am talking about people in political power.