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(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: How about the books of the Bible themselves? Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture? Or, the Gospel of Thomas? Or, the Acts of Pilate?
Because they aren't inspired?
Ultimately the theme of the Old Testament is the Law, and the Theme of the New Testament is Grace, what do the books you mentioned add?
July 12, 2017 at 10:26 am (This post was last modified: July 12, 2017 at 10:29 am by Jehanne.)
I want everyone to read the end of the Gospel of Thomas:
Quote:113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."
[Saying probably added to the original collection at a later date:]
114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."
Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."
(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Show me where the Trinity is taught in the Bible. How about the books of the Bible themselves? Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture? Or, the Gospel of Thomas? Or, the Acts of Pilate?
I know Christians are seldom if ever, embarrassed by the unbelievable bullshit that makes up 99% of the bible, but this:
Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.
Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Show me where the Trinity is taught in the Bible. How about the books of the Bible themselves? Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture? Or, the Gospel of Thomas? Or, the Acts of Pilate?
I know Christians are seldom if ever, embarrassed by the unbelievable bullshit that makes up 99% of the bible, but this:
Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.
Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.
Oh, thank you! I had forgot all about the talking dog!!
Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.
Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.
Are you kidding? They love red herrings.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(July 11, 2017 at 9:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: So, the Saved set is a proper subset of the Elect set then?
To put it simply, yes.
(July 11, 2017 at 9:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: As for the Catholic Church & Baptism, many Protestants (such as Anglicans) baptize using the Trinitarian formula ("In the name of the Father..."); are you saying that they are wrong, also? And, why should we believe your interpretation of the Bible as opposed to someone else's? And, does not the end of the Gospel of Matthew state to "Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"? (Matthew 28:19)
Yes, Jesus did state to baptize in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, but ask yourself this; is Father, Son or Holy Spirit a name? Those are not names but titles, the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ.
Having three different titles does not make one three different personalities...
The Jehovah of the Old testament is the Jesus of the New testament.
Quote:And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.- Exodus 3:14
Quote:Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. - John 8:58
Quote:In Revelation Jesus stated
Quote:I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8
Did not Jesus give Peter the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven? When the people asked Peter essentially how to get to Heaven, he told them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, THAT IS THE KEY!
Quote:Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. - Acts 2:38
When Paul met those that were baptized by John the Baptist they had to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
Quote:Acts 19:3-5
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Now find me one place in the Bible where anyone was baptized under the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...
If you can't then you must acknowledge that to baptize in that manner is contrary to scripture.
(July 11, 2017 at 10:02 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Gee, a contradiction in the Bible?
And it's in actual quotations from notable Bible personages and in regards to something VERY important ??
Goodness, we might be looking at a FALSE RELIGION !!
Where's the contradiction?
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8"
