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Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 11, 2017 at 10:41 pm
(July 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: How about the books of the Bible themselves?  Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture?  Or, the Gospel of Thomas?  Or, the Acts of Pilate?
Because they aren't inspired?

Ultimately the theme of the Old Testament is the Law, and the Theme of the New Testament is Grace, what do the books you mentioned add?

How do you know that they are not inspired?
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 10:26 am (This post was last modified: July 12, 2017 at 10:29 am by Jehanne.)
I want everyone to read the end of the Gospel of Thomas:

Quote:113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."

[Saying probably added to the original collection at a later date:]

114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 11:29 am
(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Show me where the Trinity is taught in the Bible.  How about the books of the Bible themselves?  Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture?  Or, the Gospel of Thomas?  Or, the Acts of Pilate?

I know Christians are seldom if ever, embarrassed by the unbelievable bullshit that makes up 99% of the bible, but this:

Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.

Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 12:24 pm
(July 12, 2017 at 11:29 am)Succubus Wrote:
(July 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Show me where the Trinity is taught in the Bible.  How about the books of the Bible themselves?  Why is the Gospel of Peter not part of scripture?  Or, the Gospel of Thomas?  Or, the Acts of Pilate?

I know Christians are seldom if ever, embarrassed by the unbelievable bullshit that makes up 99% of the bible, but this:

Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.

Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.

Oh, thank you!  I had forgot all about the talking dog!!
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 3:07 pm
A resurrected smoked fish ?

Jesus fucking Christ, suppose the little thing was in hell with Jesus and was smoked from the fiery fires there ??

WOW !!!!


How did the Mormons not latch on to this ???
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 6:34 pm
Some dude's just sitting down for his lunch and the next thing it's flapping around the table.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 12, 2017 at 9:09 pm
(July 12, 2017 at 11:29 am)Succubus Wrote:
Quote:In the text Peter performs miracles such as resurrecting smoked fish, and making dogs talk.

Might be too much even for the fundies. A talking, walking dog, no problem. A resurrected fish? That might be just too much for the poor dears.

Are you kidding? They love red herrings.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 13, 2017 at 8:48 am
(July 12, 2017 at 3:07 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: A resurrected smoked fish ?

Jesus fucking Christ, suppose the little thing was in hell with Jesus and was smoked from the fiery fires there ??

WOW !!!!


How did the Mormons not latch on to this ???

The first instance of "Lox of Love"?
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 14, 2017 at 8:42 pm
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 14, 2017 at 10:27 pm
(July 13, 2017 at 8:48 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(July 12, 2017 at 3:07 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: A resurrected smoked fish ?

Jesus fucking Christ, suppose the little thing was in hell with Jesus and was smoked from the fiery fires there ??

WOW !!!!


How did the Mormons not latch on to this ???

The first instance of "Lox of Love"?

I'm thinking a fish smoked over a brimstone fire would be pretty disgusting, regardless if it reanimated or not . . .
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