(August 17, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:submersion verse sprinkling?(August 17, 2017 at 6:46 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You mean like infant versus believer baptism?
"...Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." -Mark 16:15-16
I don't see that as being clearly on the side of either.
No I mean how the Catholic church baptizes vs how the apostles actually baptized.
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(August 18, 2017 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote:(August 17, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: No I mean how the Catholic church baptizes vs how the apostles actually baptized.submersion verse sprinkling? Baptism utilizing the trinitarian formula of 'Father', 'Son' and 'Holy Spirit', when Peter (whom the Catholic church claims as the first Pope) clearly baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. (August 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(August 18, 2017 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote: submersion verse sprinkling? "The Son" is Jesus Christ
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
I note at one point the Mormons were forced to issue a statement noting the Holy Ghost was NOT Mrs. God, or God's wife or anything female. Additionally, all other entities without corporeal form, in Mormonism, are deemed to be suffering a punishment, from God, EXCEPT the Holy Ghost. And they've had to point that out too.
Glad to help keep everyone up to speed on this. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
(August 18, 2017 at 7:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Baptism utilizing the trinitarian formula of 'Father', 'Son' and 'Holy Spirit', when Peter (whom the Catholic church claims as the first Pope) clearly baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Mind. BLOWN.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
--- There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
@OP: Any fellow wafflists around? Hmu
(August 18, 2017 at 10:45 pm)Astonished Wrote:(August 18, 2017 at 7:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "The Son" is Jesus Christ I'm just saying, I don't see how saying The Son instead of Jesus Christ is heresy.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
In the world of Chritianity, that is more than enough to schism over.
Heck, the Amish had a schism over the width of hat brims. (IANMTU) Schisms must be what Jesus had in mind, His followers do it seemingly every chance they get. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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