And another thing you said you KNOW god is good because you BELIEVE he has a better sense of justice. Isnt there an obvious problem with that reasoning?
If I die and god is real, im so screwed.
What are your answers?
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And another thing you said you KNOW god is good because you BELIEVE he has a better sense of justice. Isnt there an obvious problem with that reasoning?
If I die and god is real, im so screwed.
(August 25, 2011 at 3:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(August 25, 2011 at 3:37 pm)salty Wrote: Who are you talking about, when you say half the people that ever lived? Are you talking about before the flood? Do you believe the flood happened? If you don't believe it happened, then what does it matter (shrug)? But if you DO believe it happened, then you can trust that God was telling the truth when he said that he could see their hearts were wicked and he was sorry he made them. (Gen 6:5-6) Are you sure we can't be friends? Am I being too forceful? ::runs to LastPoet and attachs to his leg::
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
(August 25, 2011 at 4:15 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: And another thing you said you KNOW god is good because you BELIEVE he has a better sense of justice. Isnt there an obvious problem with that reasoning? Honey... knowledge is an assumption of correctness. Ergo: it is taken on faith to be true. So no... it seems 100% tautological to me. Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
RE: What are your answers?
August 25, 2011 at 4:21 pm
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If you could let go of the ideas of inequality by cosmic decree, eternal punishment for transient crimes, and vicarious salvation sure.
(Sae to offer up the daily dose of solipsism..lol) RE: What are your answers?
August 25, 2011 at 4:23 pm
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(August 25, 2011 at 3:33 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: I still have yet to have a christian answer me about how they feel comfortable saying god is good when half of the people who have EVER lived are supposed to suffer for believing the wrong thing. Seriously? How are you comfortable with that? Ladislas Krstic: "That's enough, I'm about to shoot a beautiful woman and her retard stable boy, and yet I will sleep like a baby." (August 25, 2011 at 4:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (Sae to offer up the daily dose of solipsism..lol) It's existentialism -_- Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
That does it! I'm going back in time to save jebus from the crucifix....then knife him when I get him out of sight. Then destroy all traces of the body. No martyr, no 2,000 year long problem.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity. Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist. You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them. (August 25, 2011 at 1:09 pm)salty Wrote: Good call. We are loud with our beliefs, I never looked at it that way. Glad to see you agree. Seriously, I can hardly go anywhere without seeing someone promoting their religious beliefs. I went out yesterday and saw a guy wearing a hat that said "I LOVE JESUS". I can't drive down the road without seeing a car sporting a "GOT JESUS?" bumper sticker. I can't go to the store without seeing someone wearing a "Jesus is my savior" T-shirt. I was at Disney World and saw a plane skywrite the message "JESUS LOVES YOU". I don't know how many times I've gone into a public restroom and found some stupid religious pamphlet sitting on top of the urinal. I can't tell you how many times I've walked down a street and encountered somebody holding up a sign saying "REPENT!" while they loudly spouted "Jesus died for our sins!". And it's annoying as hell when some sanctimonious pinhead bangs on my door to hand me their religious literature. Frankly, I don't care what you believe. But when you proclaim what I consider to be nonsensical beliefs as "truth" in a public forum, I'm going to speak up and challenge you to provide evidence that what you're saying is true.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems? (August 25, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: That does it! I'm going back in time to save jebus from the crucifix....then knife him when I get him out of sight. Then destroy all traces of the body. No martyr, no 2,000 year long problem. Wouldn't you like to see the other religions that would have filled the void? Lots of blood involved in these. Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
(August 25, 2011 at 4:28 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:(August 25, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: That does it! I'm going back in time to save jebus from the crucifix....then knife him when I get him out of sight. Then destroy all traces of the body. No martyr, no 2,000 year long problem. Fuck. I guess if I did remove jebus, we'd have nutters saying "larry died for your sins" instead. Just can't fucking win can ya?!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity. Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist. You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
No... worse: you'd have 'We must sacrifice 10 virgins to Esoiqpaenis to ensure rain" -_-
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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