"Blame anything but the gun culture", sounds like a NRA bumpersticker to me.
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High school shooting in Parkland FL
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 15, 2018 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm by Aegon.)
(February 15, 2018 at 3:42 pm)A Theist Wrote:(February 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Aegon Wrote: I love how you realize the US has a violent culture but somehow you don't connect that to the fact that guns are so ingrained in our culture. Im not ignoring it, it's just irrelevant. There are psychos who fantasize about killing everywhere. But with the influx of guns and our gun culture it makes it 100x easier for them to do it. You see this, surely? You think he would've been able to stab 17 people before somebody stopped him? You think he would've done a whole lot driving a car into the building? Why can't people just admit to this stuff? Also, respond to the point: do guns contribute to our culture of violence, yes or no? (February 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Guns are clearly more important to these people than are children. Sadly yes. 20 kids and 6 teachers in a school, and they gun worshipers care less about those kids than having a better vetting system to prevent these types of events. Now yet another Columbine, another Newtown, not to mention the daily suicides, accidental, domestic murders on top of the outrageous amount of mass shootings too. America has allowed 1 industry and it's blood lobby to be held hostage by greedy firearm profiteers. RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 15, 2018 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2018 at 4:17 pm by RoadRunner79.)
(February 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Sadly yes. 20 kids and 6 teachers in a school, and they gun worshipers care less about those kids than having a better vetting system to prevent these types of events. I think that perhaps you may be more successful, if you quit slandering and straw manning people, and instead present a logical and reasonable solution. You know; with details and expected results type of stuff. Quit speaking for other people, which you are not good at, and give them something good to listen too. That is, if you really care about those kids and this isn't just more of your rhetoric and nonsense.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther (February 15, 2018 at 10:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Would there still have been 17 murders and 17 injured in a matter of minutes if this kid didn't have access to an AR-15? Possibly. Looking at what's being reported in regards to his social media accounts, many students have said that if there was going to be a shooting at the school, this kid would be the one to do it. And this was being said last year. One of his social media accounts was reported to the FBI. Nothing was done. There was a clear and present danger with this kid, it was reported, and still not one single agency exercised due diligence to ensure that this sort of thing could have been prevented. We have a problem in this country. Clearly, if someone is posting all sorts of questionable stuff on social media and people have taken the steps to report it to law enforcement and law enforcement does nothing - then where do you think the problem lies? Thoughts and prayers won't fix this. Talking about this won't entirely fix this. Action and taking steps to ensure that when law enforcement is alerted to negative behavior, they investigate and do what they need to so that the troubled person gets the help they need. Until that happens, we will keep on having these incidents. Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 15, 2018 at 4:30 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2018 at 4:32 pm by Amarok.)
Is Ahole trying to say there are no psychos in Japan and they don't have a culture of violence . As for the idea American children are not disciplined. They also are not driven to suicide by social pressures . As for the gaming industry considering the best selling game of all time is Tetris followed by Minecraft then wii sports . It seems the game industry makes more money overall on minimally violent games . And for every Grand theft auto there is 10 puzzle games . This just highlights Aholes ignorance and desire for a scapegoat.And if want a industry that makes millions of violence try the Gun manufacturing industry .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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About the most one can say about video games is that they desensitize people to violence like other violent media (https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/07/7356/), but there's nothing linking that to participation in violent acts. Indeed, no real link has been found (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2007/11/m...nd-gaming/). And, in fact, internationally, the more money spent on video games, the less violence actually occurs (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/12/d...-argument/).
So, can people please stop with the "These vidya games are turning our children into killers!" BS? It's not true, and the people trying to push that narrative have a clear agenda (namely, blaming everything but easy access to guns as a part of the problem).
Actually it turns out that Video games don't desensitize people
https://blog.frontiersin.org/2017/03/09/...t-empathy/ http://www.iflscience.com/brain/study-fi...n-empathy/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder...efbe4b6ec6
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
I asked my 13 year old son and my 15 year old daughter, who BOTH like playing CoD Black Ops, if they would ever feel the need to go out and shoot up a bunch of people simply because they play a "violent" video game and they both looked at me like I was nuts. Both emphatically said NO.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
Just on, Sharon Liko interviewed about Cruz:
on meds (don't know if currently), adopted, some hints of FAS or infant crack exposure perhaps, seeing or has seen a therapist, has recently lost both adoptive parents . . . I suppose his legal team is marshaling and organizing an anti-death penalty strategy already. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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