Rebellion against god

[Banned]

Then stop trying to convince people who are quite convinced that you're delusional and way too attached to your imaginary war-demon sky fairy.
There is no god, and Jesus, IF he existed, was a suicidal loony egomaniac Jewish preacher.  He pissed off the religious leaders AND the Romans and he had to die.  IF he existed.
You can't be wanting a peek at something that doesn't exist . . . I'm not desperate to catch the Tooth Fairy.  Although if it actually showed up, now THAT would be interesting.

God doesn't want anything.  God doesn't have a nature.  God is a fantasy, just like Spiderman and Santa Claus.

I'm just reasoning as best as I know, with what people post.

I wouldn't expect any historical evidence of Christ on earth - a planet in rebellion.

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This is the way it works.

You have to believe to see the evidence and you have to have faith to believe.

If you have those, you don't need evidence.

It's an excuse for the lack of evidence.

The same way you'll only hear from "god" is if you believe and have faith. And if you don't hear it's because you don't belueve hard enough or have enough faith.

It's just empty claims and excuses.

That's pretty much it.
I appreciate your answer.
The Bible says that "faith is the evidence." And that added knowledge should fit the glove.
The statement of truth comes first, then the evidence has to match.
That's the same as saying that perception is determined by one's philosophy.

But there is more to it, as you would rightly expect.

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LOL, your imaginary friend has a court!!  Basketball?  Bloody Mary and Hitler and the Spanish Inquisition folks are his advisers, and they party all the time, let the bodies hit the floor!

Yes, the court is in session now.
There is a jury of 24 members - human beings, at any given time, and these people represent life from all era's of earth's history, and their full life experiences. The jury is changed with each case, and sometimes each circumstance of a person's life.

The judgement isn't about condemnation but confirmation of eternal life.
While God already knows each case, people in heaven don't know, and angels don't always know the fate of the ones they guarded. And intelligent beings from other planets are also interested in what Christ has been able to achieve for the human race.

The recordings of this judgement may be perused in detail by all who live forever.

As for the inquisition and other atrocities, you are able to know the details and causes of these institutions etc, and whether they have anything to do with God or not. You may want to check out the series called "Total Onslaught" by Prof W. Veith. on Amazing Discoveries.

[Astreja]

Yes, the court is in session now.
There is a jury of 24 members - human beings, at any given time, and these people represent life from all era's of earth's history, and their full life experiences. The jury is changed with each case, and sometimes each circumstance of a person's life.

The judgement isn't about condemnation but confirmation of eternal life.
While God already knows each case, people in heaven don't know, and angels don't always know the fate of the ones they guarded. And intelligent beings from other planets are also interested in what Christ has been able to achieve for the human race.

*facepalm* That's not even good fiction.

[robvalue]

What's this got to do with rebellion against God? I can't rebel against something I have had no awareness of my whole life.

If anyone tortures me, be it a psychopathic terrorist or a loving God, I'll be screaming for them to stop. I'm a total pussy. If that doesn't work, I'll be cursing them. But since the idea of an "afterlife" makes no sense to me, I'd have no idea what anything would feel like in this strange new mode of existence.

[Banned]

You are trying to work backwards and use the universe as evidence for a completely undetectable entity.  You are claiming that a cause/effect relationship exists between your god and the universe, but you have not demonstrated that; you are merely asserting it.  You cannot just define your god into existence by claiming that it is the cause of something else.

Produce the exact quote where I said something to the effect of "according to you, there is nothing profound to them."

Your alleged god is a nothing in my eyes.  It is a fictional being totally bereft of power.

SDA is an end-times cult.  It believes in a second coming, and in the destruction of non-believers.  Own your religion's barbarity, or renounce it.

There are people who work in areas of solving crimes where evidence is seemingly non existent. "Seeing is believing" has its limits.

Thank God there are people who are prepared to ackowledge the unseen.
You can't see a criminal mind, but it leaves a very distinguishable trace.
You can't see a good mind, and it too leaves a very distinguishable impact on everything. But to most people, these things do not exist, because they have absolutely no idea about it.

Sorry but being clueless isn't an argument for the truth.
The universe is one open display of God's character. Either you pick up on his character in nature, or you don't.

As for a barbarian destruction of the wicked, I don't agree with the eternal preservation of criminals and crime.
I am looking forward to justice for the innocent, both now and in the final judgement, when those who safely hid in their mouldy graves will be bought to life to face the Judge.

[Astreja]

I am looking forward to justice for the innocent, both now and in the final judgement, when those who safely hid in their mouldy graves will be bought to life to face the Judge.

Then I have no choice but to declare you my mortal enemy.  Henceforth, may life treat you exactly as if you had personally threatened me and other non-believers with death, until the day that you have lost your faith.

[Banned]

Yes, the court is in session now.
There is a jury of 24 members - human beings, at any given time, and these people represent life from all era's of earth's history, and their full life experiences. The jury is changed with each case, and sometimes each circumstance of a person's life.

The judgement isn't about condemnation but confirmation of eternal life.
While God already knows each case, people in heaven don't know, and angels don't always know the fate of the ones they guarded. And intelligent beings from other planets are also interested in what Christ has been able to achieve for the human race.

*facepalm* That's not even good fiction.

So if you don't know the Bible, why did you criticise it all this time?

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What's this got to do with rebellion against God? I can't rebel against something I have had no awareness of my whole life.

If anyone tortures me, be it a psychopathic terrorist or a loving God, I'll be screaming for them to stop. I'm a total pussy. If that doesn't work, I'll be cursing them. But since the idea of an "afterlife" makes no sense to me, I'd have no idea what anything would feel like in this strange new mode of existence.

Quite right, it's way of topic.

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I am looking forward to justice for the innocent, both now and in the final judgement, when those who safely hid in their mouldy graves will be bought to life to face the Judge.

Then I have no choice but to declare you my mortal enemy.  Henceforth, may life treat you exactly as if you had personally threatened me and other non-believers with death, until the day that you have lost your faith.

So how is death not part of the atheist world? Isn't your world going to end under the sun? Isn't every life form just a pointless spat?

As if believers bought about the threat of death.

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[LadyForCamus]

Will you know who he is and be happy to see him, or will you be clinging to your hellish ideas about God, and be waiting with a set of test tubes and a band of clip board warriors?

Oh, thank you, Banned! This one gave me a good belly laugh. It was so POE-etic! 😉

[Fake Messiah]

Even you know that what you just wrote is total bullshit. Many people have "yielded to God" (Jesus) and yet they completely failed to be educated since there are many thousands of different Christianities that preach different things. Like some Christianities still cling to flat Earth while others concluded that biological evolution is true and yet I bet you're not one of them. Also your own division of Christianity believed Jesus will come on Earth on specific dates and failed - so much of yielding to Jesus to know the Bible.

The divisions and differences among men. That excuse won't stand up in God's court.

And let me guess: he'll let you in while he'll burn Catholics, Mormons, Anglicans and practically all other denominations.

"Divisions among men" caused by god who made such lousy imperfect book. That really diminishes your god because he is not perfect, a perfect god would make perfect book that has only one obvious interpretation. The moment you find yourself defending your interpretation against some other christian denomination the premise of perfection is destroyed and the perfect god along with it.

[purplepurpose]

Banned, people here dislike God so much that even if He sends one of his Angels, they would still reject Him.

Although, if you find someone who's gathering men for a Holy Crusade, let me know. My thirst to enlighten rotten souls of blasphemers is unbearable.

[Banned]

And let me guess: he'll let you in while he'll burn Catholics, Mormons, Anglicans and practically all other denominations.

"Divisions among men" caused by god who made such lousy imperfect book. That really diminishes your god because he is not perfect, a perfect god would make perfect book that has only one obvious interpretation. The moment you find yourself defending your interpretation against some other christian denomination the premise of perfection is destroyed and the perfect god along with it.

The Bible is written in English, and language like maths has its rules. Once those rules are broken, it's not a valid interpretation.

If people have been warned, and they make the decision to stay with the ideologies of men as opposed to the Bible, they will have themselves to blame.

The reasons for rejection of the Bible are neglect to read it personally, hatred for its plain truth, the need to fit in with the majority, and the secret love of sin.

People are not witten off at the slightest error, but are given a life time of opprtunities that will have a sum total effect, that cannot be reversed. What people sow they reap.

Having said that, no one is so far gone, that God will not take them in, and forgive all their sins, no matter how great they are. Some of the worst sinners have been exemplified in the Bible, like Manasseh, the very cruel mass murderer, who repented and will be saved. But the danger is to avoid God for long enough to become totally hardened, without any room for repentance.

The religious profession a person will not save them, because God is no respector of persons.

The Bible could not be plainer and clearer on that issue. An understanding of the geart controversy between God and Satan, shows that the truth is constantly under attack from deception and force.
Truth is very easy to misrepresent, and some people will stop at nothing, fulfilling their position in the ranks of Satan.