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My new support for hedonism

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My new support for hedonism
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:39 am (This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 2:40 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 4, 2018 at 8:59 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I have revised my opening statement and I will just post it here:

Opening Statement/Summary:  I might have actually been wrong when I said that our basic emotions are a sense in my book. But I still think they are a feeling version of value and that they are the chemical message to our brains that things are good, beautiful, bad, horrible, or disgusting.
Sure, I'm with you.

Quote:Our morality and intellect alone cannot be any real message of value to our brains.
Meh, nope, you lost me.  I deeply value a great many things on purely intellectual grounds that I detest on emotional grounds.

Back to the drawing board, again, I guess?
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 4:18 am
My only philosophical goal is to be able to write a simple, declarative sentence without the word 'fuck' in it.

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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 9:10 am
(March 5, 2018 at 4:18 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: My only philosophical goal is to be able to write a simple, declarative sentence without the word 'fuck' in it.

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lol keep trying Big Grin
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 9:18 am
I fucking will at that. 

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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 10:01 am
Can't be fucking done imo
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am
How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am)robvalue Wrote: How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.

Because of humans or in spite of humans? I'm not sure that all suffering can be reduced.
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Tl;dr
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 6:05 pm
I'd have to agree with Rskovride. It's a bit long, TD. Maybe you could have put two or three essential ideas in the OP for discussion and linked to the entire piece.

(Of course you could still just do that now.)
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RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 6:46 pm (This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm by robvalue.)
Most people seek pleasure, but it's about how they go about it and balance things.

I'd say hedonism is about placing higher value on pleasure you can have right now, at the expense of your future wellbeing, and perhaps other people's. Doing that repeatedly is going to cause problems long term.

(March 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am)robvalue Wrote: How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.

Because of humans or in spite of humans? I'm not sure that all suffering can be reduced.

I meant that if someone is saying all they care about is pleasure, I'd say that they'd also want to reduce their own suffering where possible.
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