Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 27, 2024, 11:14 am
Atheist Forums › Community › Philosophy v
My new support for hedonism

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
My new support for hedonism
The Grand Nudger Online
Retired Staff
*****
Religious Views: Invasive
Posts: 67192
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation: 162
#11
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:39 am (This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 2:40 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 4, 2018 at 8:59 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I have revised my opening statement and I will just post it here:

Opening Statement/Summary:  I might have actually been wrong when I said that our basic emotions are a sense in my book. But I still think they are a feeling version of value and that they are the chemical message to our brains that things are good, beautiful, bad, horrible, or disgusting.
Sure, I'm with you.

Quote:Our morality and intellect alone cannot be any real message of value to our brains.
Meh, nope, you lost me.  I deeply value a great many things on purely intellectual grounds that I detest on emotional grounds.

Back to the drawing board, again, I guess?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Find
Reply
BrianSoddingBoru4 Offline
Power-Drunk Administrator
*******
Religious Views: Headology
Posts: 46121
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation: 109
#12
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 4:18 am
My only philosophical goal is to be able to write a simple, declarative sentence without the word 'fuck' in it.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Find
Reply
bennyboy Offline
Senior Member
****
Religious Views: agnostic
Posts: 9147
Threads: 83
Joined: May 22, 2013
Reputation: 46
#13
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 9:10 am
(March 5, 2018 at 4:18 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: My only philosophical goal is to be able to write a simple, declarative sentence without the word 'fuck' in it.

Boru

lol keep trying Big Grin
Find
Reply
BrianSoddingBoru4 Offline
Power-Drunk Administrator
*******
Religious Views: Headology
Posts: 46121
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation: 109
#14
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 9:18 am
I fucking will at that. 

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Find
Reply
Jackalope Away
Elon Musk owes me money
*******
Religious Views: Absent
Posts: 30974
Threads: 204
Joined: July 19, 2011
Reputation: 141
#15
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 10:01 am
Can't be fucking done imo
Find
Reply
robvalue Offline
Chainsaw of logic
*****
Religious Views: Time to wake up
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation: 155
#16
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am
How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.

Index of useful threads and discussions
Index of my best videos
Quickstart guide to the forum
Find
Reply
brewer Offline Donators
Emotionally exhausted/Morally bankrupt
*****
Religious Views: atheist
Posts: 28323
Threads: 523
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation: 90
#17
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am)robvalue Wrote: How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.

Because of humans or in spite of humans? I'm not sure that all suffering can be reduced.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
Find
Reply
rskovride Offline
Sinless
**
Religious Views: Atheist / Budding Antitheist
Posts: 391
Threads: 5
Joined: January 30, 2018
Reputation: 16
#18
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Tl;dr
Find
Reply
vulcanlogician Offline
δικαιοσύνη
****
Religious Views: I Grok Spock
Posts: 5813
Threads: 86
Joined: November 19, 2017
Reputation: 59
#19
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 6:05 pm
I'd have to agree with Rskovride. It's a bit long, TD. Maybe you could have put two or three essential ideas in the OP for discussion and linked to the entire piece.

(Of course you could still just do that now.)
Find
Reply
robvalue Offline
Chainsaw of logic
*****
Religious Views: Time to wake up
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation: 155
#20
RE: My new support for hedonism
March 5, 2018 at 6:46 pm (This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm by robvalue.)
Most people seek pleasure, but it's about how they go about it and balance things.

I'd say hedonism is about placing higher value on pleasure you can have right now, at the expense of your future wellbeing, and perhaps other people's. Doing that repeatedly is going to cause problems long term.

(March 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(March 5, 2018 at 10:49 am)robvalue Wrote: How about reducing suffering? I'd say that's a good thing too.

Because of humans or in spite of humans? I'm not sure that all suffering can be reduced.

I meant that if someone is saying all they care about is pleasure, I'd say that they'd also want to reduce their own suffering where possible.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.

Index of useful threads and discussions
Index of my best videos
Quickstart guide to the forum
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Philosophy v
My new support for hedonism

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Are there other paradoxes analogous to the so-called "Paradox of Hedonism"? Porcupine 4 651 July 17, 2020 at 3:58 am
Last Post: Porcupine
  In support of the rage of man bennyboy 244 19598 April 4, 2019 at 6:43 am
Last Post: bennyboy
  Support of a claim pshun2404 13 4718 August 18, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Last Post: FallentoReason
  Hedonism My imaginary friend is GOD 7 1550 February 14, 2013 at 8:29 am
Last Post: mralstoner
  Atheism and Life Support Freedom 12 4111 January 4, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Last Post: KichigaiNeko



Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)