Jesus : The Early years

[Godscreated]

You're right I can't ask her and neither can you so you have no proof or even reason to believe Luke didn't ask her. She is the one who would know about those times so it's obvious that Luke would get the real story from her. Luke was well educated and would want to know the truth from the source.

GC

Another fictional person that you think existed, huh G-C.  Pathetic.

I wish you were fictional. I know you're pathetic.

GC

[Minimalist]

My job is to give you facts, whether you want them or not.  And to see to it that others are not swayed by your childish assertions.

I know you don't like facts...but that isn't my problem.

Your lack of, not only knowledge, but even the tiniest bit of curiosity of where your bullshit god came from is astounding.  Tell me, do you think the stork brings babies, too?

[GrandizerII]

And the verses don't say that Luke interacted with Mary in any way, so quit the dishonesty and just say that you think Luke asked Mary about Jesus' early years but you're just not sure. Just admit you were wrong for being confident about it earlier.

You are a wuss, you can't accept that someone is so confident in what he understands that you have to stand in the corner and cry your little eyes out. Luke must of talked to Mary to have the information of His early years.

GC

You still cant back up what youre saying so you have to resort to personal attacks because you dont like me cornering you and holding you accountable to what you say. You dont have direct access to the past, and the verses dont support you, so let this Christian humility rise out of you and admit you were wrong. Otherwise, youre not only being too proud to admit you made a mistake, youre being dishonest in persisting that you are justified in this belief.

[Godscreated]

You are a wuss, you can't accept that someone is so confident in what he understands that you have to stand in the corner and cry your little eyes out. Luke must of talked to Mary to have the information of His early years.

GC

You still cant back up what youre saying so you have to resort to personal attacks because you dont like me cornering you and holding you accountable to what you say. You dont have direct access to the past, and the verses dont support you, so let this Christian humility rise out of you and admit you were wrong. Otherwise, youre not only being too proud to admit you made a mistake, youre being dishonest in persisting that you are justified in this belief.

You call me the black pot when you are one, good job.    Why do you need for me to say I'm wrong, so you can feel better about yourself or in want to win an argument, either is pitiful. I've explained what I know and if you do not like it that's to bad. Why should I admit to something that I did not do and I will not deny what I understand, would you. You can continue to beg all you want and it want make a difference, I'm finished with this foolishness.

GC

[Minimalist]

Sadly G-C is committed to a 17th century re-write of his fucking bible which was primarily designed to support the idea that the king was anointed by "god" and should be obeyed.... even though this particular king was a known homosexual which would scandalize G-C if he ever pulled his head out of his own ass long enough to learn anything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles...s-vi-and-i

Filled with ‘a number of male lovelies’: the surprising court of King James VI and I

For social historian Emma Dabiri, it’s no surprise that James was gay or bisexual — as his letters to George Villiers confirm, the two were in an intimate relationship.

[GrandizerII]

You still cant back up what youre saying so you have to resort to personal attacks because you dont like me cornering you and holding you accountable to what you say. You dont have direct access to the past, and the verses dont support you, so let this Christian humility rise out of you and admit you were wrong. Otherwise, youre not only being too proud to admit you made a mistake, youre being dishonest in persisting that you are justified in this belief.

You call me the black pot when you are one, good job.    Why do you need for me to say I'm wrong, so you can feel better about yourself or in want to win an argument, either is pitiful. I've explained what I know and if you do not like it that's to bad. Why should I admit to something that I did not do and I will not deny what I understand, would you. You can continue to beg all you want and it want make a difference, I'm finished with this foolishness.

GC

Yeah, raise your nose in arrogance as you walk away from this challenging experience. You just couldnt handle saying youre wrong.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You guys need another chew toy, this one's well past it.

[Minimalist]

No matter how many new toys I buy my dogs they love their old ones.


Here's a little something for G-C to lose his mind over.  A late 2d century xtian apologist by the name of Athenagoras of Athens wrote two surviving works, one a plea for clemency towards xtians and the other a treatise on the resurrection of the dead.  We know that the apologia dates from the period of 177-180 AD as it is addressed to Marcus Aurelius and his son Commodus, and notes that they were jointly ruling the empire which only happened in the 3 years preceding Aurelius' death.  Yet, as late as that is and in an intellectual hotspot like Athens, Athenagoras manages to get through the entire text of both works without once mentioning the name "jesus."  Now I'm sure G-C would chew off his own leg trying to escape from the trap but the simple explanation ( remember Occam's Razor ) is that the jesus addition to the story had not reached Athens by the last two decades of the 2d century.  How does a xtian discuss resurrection without mentioning the godboy's big magic trick?  More to the point, why would he want to?

Both of his works are available at Peter Kirby's excellent http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/athenagoras.html site

[The Grand Nudger]

What most people think of as "early christianity" is late 3rd to 4th century fan fiction.  It betrays itself at every step.

[Minimalist]

This is why people like G-C simply swallow the fairy tales and never, ever, think.