Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread

[Drich]

They are strictly atheist only like most Christian forums are Christian only so as to protect the indoctrinated from thinking outside the box they represent.

If that was true then you theists wouldn't be referred to by the admin as chew toys and wouldn't be given a chance to debate. From what I can tell, theists get banned once they get repetitive and end up spamming instead of saying anything new.

Basically theists get used and then eventually discarded if all they are wanting is to preach.

Same thing is true here at the .org site... So why was I bann according to the screen that won't let me sign in or even browse the .com site say I was bann for a 2012 offense?

The truth is christian are forced too the role as a chew toy and are held there in place by the mods. however when one will not play the role/ is way smarter than the atheists or mods, they are ejected so as to make room for another chew toy.
one of my most prevalent memories of the .com site is how often members complained about how I was allowed to talk to another member. it was brought up once or twice I had broken no rules yet the membership demanded I be bann anyway because I got the last word and shut down several threads.

You can lie and pretend I am out of my league, but in truth the member's here know what is what because I have been doing the same thing here unfettered since I left the .com site in 2012. Here it is common place that  have the last theological word or topic inspired word. @AF.com you guys panicked and ban me mid discussion so I could not respond which makes it look like I was unable to answer, for again nothing I said or did during that discussion, but for what I did in 2012 which again was little more than take your best guys to task and come out on top.

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Let's not kid ourselves. Neither Theists or Atheists are sincere to the truth. If we theists were, we would have long abandoned our idols and held on to God's rope and solved our disputes. Neither are Atheists who are trying to escape the conflict of religion and escape the striving necessary to reach the truth.

No one is better off. And as for myself, a person who abandoned reason to the extent of insanity for 14 years, who when God opened a door to ascension to the higher realms ran away to the darkness in fear of the truth, and was playful with irrationality and listening to the darkest whispers and relying on the unclean energy,  my stench is a lot worse then everyone here.

And my disbelief in the truth and hidden signs I saw for years is the worse type of disbelief.  

May God lead us to his forgiveness and make us strive to enjoin the truth upon one another.

What makes you think that just because God has not responded to you in your efforts has not responded to the theists?

[Tiberius]

Did a bunch of Christians just make alpha male leave? I’m so confused.

[Catholic_Lady]

When I say that it's a double standard that Neo is getting dragged through the mud for making generalizations by people who themselves have made plenty of generalizations, are you.... 

1. Disagreeing with me and saying there is NO double standard? 

OR

2. Admitting that there is a double standard but that it's ok because Christians, as a whole, deserve it and this is an atheist forum?   

I'm trying to explain that him getting dragged through the mud is because of his own actions. I'm not excusing anyone. I'm not saying whether he should or should not get dragged through the mud. I also postulated that theists don't always understand how they offend others and can see themselves as the injured party. I was not saying one side was worse than the other but you ignored all that, kept trying to excuse Neo and made your argument that both sides do it. I was trying to explain why that is. You seem rather upset by this for some reason.

That's my point, Mathilda lol. His actions (making generalized/unflattering statements about atheists) are the same ones that you and others here have been guilty of plenty of times.

So I think it's a little bit of a double standard to peg him some sort of monster for doing the same things you do.

^That is what I was pointing out. If you agree with that, then I don't see why we are arguing about this.

[Angrboda]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers? You mean like that? You're so full of shit, CL. Objective observer my ass. You're as partisan as Neo is. Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses. You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card. Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit. This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

[RoadRunner79]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers?  You mean like that?  You're so full of shit, CL.  Objective observer my ass.  You're as partisan as Neo is.  Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses.  You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card.  Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit.  This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

If so; that is certainly crossing the line.... Bad Neo

[I_am_not_mafia]

That's my point, Mathilda lol. His actions (making generalized/unflattering statements about atheists) are the same ones that you and others here have been guilty of plenty of times.

So I think it's a little bit of a double standard to peg him some sort of monster for doing the same things you do.

^That is what I was pointing out. If you agree with that, then I don't see why we are arguing about this.

But some people do it to greater extremes than others. As far as I'm concerned, and it seems others share this perception, Neo takes it to the next level. Same as we all recognise the kind of threads that Min starts. And he sometimes comes in for flak for it as well.

It's not a binary condition of guilty or innocent.

[Catholic_Lady]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers? You mean like that? You're so full of shit, CL. Objective observer my ass. You're as partisan as Neo is. Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses. You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card. Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit. This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

I don't mean any thread specifically. But I've seen some vile, disgusting things said to him plenty of times that weren't warranted. So when he makes a nasty comment and everyone goes crazy, it just reeks of the ol' "can dish it but cant take it."

If you want to tell me I'm "full of shit" for pointing that out, go for it I suppose.

[henryp]

I think Neo would fit in perfectly here if he were Atheist. He's heavy on talking points and is wrapped up in that Us vs. Them mentality. He just happens to be on the wrong team.

[I_am_not_mafia]

I don't mean any thread specifically. But I've seen some vile, disgusting things said to him plenty of times that weren't warranted. So when he makes a nasty comment and everyone goes crazy, it just reeks of the ol' "can dish it but cant take it."

And the point I at least am trying to make is that he probably provoked it with some earlier thread or comments. I have said myself that it was because of his threads that I started my one about theism being immature, which you then took offense at.

There is a reason he is being dragged through the mud more than anyone else.

[Drich]

I'm not the one that called your kids retards you did.

Bullshit.

Maybe your kids were retards, but mine were constantly challenging the stories in search of the truth, and when they found truth they built their lives around it. Maybe the bible should say if you children are retarded and believe everything this does not apply to them... but to the other 99% who seek out the truth and live by it.

bold mine.

I asked if they were retarded because of how you resented their basic cognitive skill set in recognizing truth. Because my children did not have any problem identifying truth.

No. You did not ask me if they were. Look at your own words above. Where's the question in that? Oh. It's not there. Quit being dishonest. 

honestly take 2 mins and read this: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV start at verse 12..

What this says is we are not all built the same. You are a hand and demand to be greeted as a hand, not only that you worshiped as a hand and only know how to praise as a hand. I came to you as a foot and greeted you as a foot. being 'snow flake' hand you thought it offensive to be greeted as a foot.

do you understand? You wanted me to greet you as you though a Christian should greet and address you.

 

No. I'd like for you to give out the respect that you demand of everyone else. Act like your Christian faith depends on it because the way you act and the way you treat others is not representative of a loving god. 

The problem, your idea of Christianity is not only wrong... it is toxic. to build a belief system on a god on a faith where everyone must conform to the degree that they can be manipulated by people outside of their beliefs is wrong... and I simply called you on that wrong not by connecting all the dots for you, but to use the same angry despondent tactic Christ used when confronted or when someone tried to manipulated him. And guess what you acted just like the Pharisees did.

You aren't god so stop trying to play the part. 

Why one to get your goat for trying to get mine

I wasn't trying to get your goat. I was responding to your post. 

Two to show you that you definition of who and what a follower of Christ is is so wrong you did not even know we were allowed/demonstrated by Christ Himself to be able to verbally beat you back/rebuke you. 

You were rebuked that's it. I never once told anyone they should live any such way. again that is your idea of what Christianity, and you have superposed it onto me. 

I am forever telling people they are free from the law, not that you should live xyz to be a good person. That good person is the devil's stick. With God you do not have to be a 'good person.' In fact God loves you because you know you are not nor ever will be a good person, so how then would I tell anyone how to live?

Again that is just a broad brush people with "slow" kids sometimes use to dismiss what someone has to say with out taking the time of reading or understanding what was said.

Nope. You didn't rebuke me. I don't take kindly to people insulting my children, whom you know nothing about. You want to take that shit out on me, fine. But you leave my kids out of this.

MAYBE look up that word for me.

Maybe mean perhaps, it is possible...

If I said maybe your kids are retarded, I simply open the possibility that they are simply because you point out their in ablity to discern truth or a general lack or desire to engage in curiosity in finding truth.

Does the mean I called your kids retarded? no

Again I was diagnosed as "retarded" (which was a clinical defination up until maybe 4 years ago) it simply means a child's learning curve is behind other children the same age. it is the opposite of the term they used for 'advanced learning.' 

So when I say maybe your kids are retarded I mean it in a clinical sense if all your children believe with out any question, if your experiences are only based on how your children act. Then I left that determination up to you if your children fit the definition of the word provided.

Now if this is true and they do qualify as learning slower than normal then know it is you who made the determination that your children were retarded and not me. I simply set the parameters to point out if you children behaved in a way consistent with a unprogrammed drone. (which you believe Christians are to act as children do when commanded that we have faith as a child.) then I was redirecting your own observation of gullibility and perhaps retardation back onto your own source material/Your children, rather than change what the scripture said about what was expected in the faith requirement needed.

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I think we all know what part of the human body you are, Drich.

How does he not know that this will be the response?  Is he masochistic?

For those who seek truth.. the response is different. for those who seek to one up me, then here is yet another chance to put that 'scientific mind, and superior reasoning ability to work.'