Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread

[Drich]

They are strictly atheist only like most Christian forums are Christian only so as to protect the indoctrinated from thinking outside the box they represent.

If that was true then you theists wouldn't be referred to by the admin as chew toys and wouldn't be given a chance to debate. From what I can tell, theists get banned once they get repetitive and end up spamming instead of saying anything new.

Basically theists get used and then eventually discarded if all they are wanting is to preach.

Same thing is true here at the .org site... So why was I bann according to the screen that won't let me sign in or even browse the .com site say I was bann for a 2012 offense?

The truth is christian are forced too the role as a chew toy and are held there in place by the mods. however when one will not play the role/ is way smarter than the atheists or mods, they are ejected so as to make room for another chew toy.
one of my most prevalent memories of the .com site is how often members complained about how I was allowed to talk to another member. it was brought up once or twice I had broken no rules yet the membership demanded I be bann anyway because I got the last word and shut down several threads.

You can lie and pretend I am out of my league, but in truth the member's here know what is what because I have been doing the same thing here unfettered since I left the .com site in 2012. Here it is common place that  have the last theological word or topic inspired word. @AF.com you guys panicked and ban me mid discussion so I could not respond which makes it look like I was unable to answer, for again nothing I said or did during that discussion, but for what I did in 2012 which again was little more than take your best guys to task and come out on top.

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Let's not kid ourselves. Neither Theists or Atheists are sincere to the truth. If we theists were, we would have long abandoned our idols and held on to God's rope and solved our disputes. Neither are Atheists who are trying to escape the conflict of religion and escape the striving necessary to reach the truth.

No one is better off. And as for myself, a person who abandoned reason to the extent of insanity for 14 years, who when God opened a door to ascension to the higher realms ran away to the darkness in fear of the truth, and was playful with irrationality and listening to the darkest whispers and relying on the unclean energy,  my stench is a lot worse then everyone here.

And my disbelief in the truth and hidden signs I saw for years is the worse type of disbelief.  

May God lead us to his forgiveness and make us strive to enjoin the truth upon one another.

What makes you think that just because God has not responded to you in your efforts has not responded to the theists?

[Tiberius]

Did a bunch of Christians just make alpha male leave? I’m so confused.

[Catholic_Lady]

When I say that it's a double standard that Neo is getting dragged through the mud for making generalizations by people who themselves have made plenty of generalizations, are you.... 

1. Disagreeing with me and saying there is NO double standard? 

OR

2. Admitting that there is a double standard but that it's ok because Christians, as a whole, deserve it and this is an atheist forum?   

I'm trying to explain that him getting dragged through the mud is because of his own actions. I'm not excusing anyone. I'm not saying whether he should or should not get dragged through the mud. I also postulated that theists don't always understand how they offend others and can see themselves as the injured party. I was not saying one side was worse than the other but you ignored all that, kept trying to excuse Neo and made your argument that both sides do it. I was trying to explain why that is. You seem rather upset by this for some reason.

That's my point, Mathilda lol. His actions (making generalized/unflattering statements about atheists) are the same ones that you and others here have been guilty of plenty of times.

So I think it's a little bit of a double standard to peg him some sort of monster for doing the same things you do.

^That is what I was pointing out. If you agree with that, then I don't see why we are arguing about this.

[Angrboda]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers? You mean like that? You're so full of shit, CL. Objective observer my ass. You're as partisan as Neo is. Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses. You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card. Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit. This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

[RoadRunner79]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers?  You mean like that?  You're so full of shit, CL.  Objective observer my ass.  You're as partisan as Neo is.  Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses.  You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card.  Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit.  This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

If so; that is certainly crossing the line.... Bad Neo

[I_am_not_mafia]

That's my point, Mathilda lol. His actions (making generalized/unflattering statements about atheists) are the same ones that you and others here have been guilty of plenty of times.

So I think it's a little bit of a double standard to peg him some sort of monster for doing the same things you do.

^That is what I was pointing out. If you agree with that, then I don't see why we are arguing about this.

But some people do it to greater extremes than others. As far as I'm concerned, and it seems others share this perception, Neo takes it to the next level. Same as we all recognise the kind of threads that Min starts. And he sometimes comes in for flak for it as well.

It's not a binary condition of guilty or innocent.

[Catholic_Lady]

And a lot of the reason he is like that is as a response to people having done it to him first, not as the instigator of it all. I am being a completely objective observer here when I say this. I'm not saying he's right to insult people right back or that his generalizations are fair. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing a double standard here, in some people thinking he's awful or sociopathic for saying these things, when many of you guys do the same thing... and do it worse even lol.

You mean like the thread where I criticized him for making off-topic criticism of the character of the thread's participants, and he responded by making snide comments about me sucking the dicks of random truckers? You mean like that? You're so full of shit, CL. Objective observer my ass. You're as partisan as Neo is. Regardless, even if there is a double standard, each person is responsible for their own offenses. You don't defend Neo for his excesses and then play the "I'm just making observations" card. Neo is being held to account, perhaps mistakenly, perhaps not, but if you have problems with other posters, address that on its own merit. This is just another example of you circling the wagons whenever a theist is accused of something.

I don't mean any thread specifically. But I've seen some vile, disgusting things said to him plenty of times that weren't warranted. So when he makes a nasty comment and everyone goes crazy, it just reeks of the ol' "can dish it but cant take it."

If you want to tell me I'm "full of shit" for pointing that out, go for it I suppose.

[henryp]

I think Neo would fit in perfectly here if he were Atheist. He's heavy on talking points and is wrapped up in that Us vs. Them mentality. He just happens to be on the wrong team.

[I_am_not_mafia]

I don't mean any thread specifically. But I've seen some vile, disgusting things said to him plenty of times that weren't warranted. So when he makes a nasty comment and everyone goes crazy, it just reeks of the ol' "can dish it but cant take it."

And the point I at least am trying to make is that he probably provoked it with some earlier thread or comments. I have said myself that it was because of his threads that I started my one about theism being immature, which you then took offense at.

There is a reason he is being dragged through the mud more than anyone else.

[Drich]