Being an Atheist parent in a Christian land

[KichigaiNeko]

Trouble is that children ARE exposed to a myriad of "religious belief" the down side is expecting ALL children to be moronic half wits to do as they're told.

Sounds like aleialoura is going the follow "my example by thinking for yourself". Certainly much more constructive for a world that desperately NEEDS people to think critically and find solutions other than relying on some 'pie in the sky' deity.

[Santewi]

Oh seriously salty, I don't know what is wrong with you. Kids should not be allowed to think themselves? Instead of letting them to choose what is right and what wrong and what to believe in and what not to, they should be forced to believe in your religion?

The world needs people who can think and who can help the world. Not people who just think everything will be okay when a old man in the sky comes and fixes everything up.

[salty]

Oh seriously salty, I don't know what is wrong with you. Kids should not be allowed to think themselves? Instead of letting them to choose what is right and what wrong and what to believe in and what not to, they should be forced to believe in your religion?

The world needs people who can think and who can help the world. Not people who just think everything will be okay when a old man in the sky comes and fixes everything up.

Once again, you have missed the part where I suggest that children should be removed from Sunday school until they're old enough to reason, if the parents have separate religious beliefs.

By the way, having an opinion does not mean something is wrong with me. I would argue that something is wrong with the person who cannot understand that humans disagree at times.

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"The Lord says that he will judge everyone according to what they have done, judgement hasn't come yet, even though many believe people are judged the instant they die I have reason to believe we will all be judged at the same time."

Funny, because the lord said this too: I am the way, the truth, and the life: No man cometh unto the father, but by me..
(John 14:6)

Peter said this: Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved (Acts 4:12)

1 John 2:23- Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

According to the bible, Hitler and his minions were justified in the eyes of God to kill the Jews.

Deuteronomy 17:12 - Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.

According to your bible, the 6 million Jews who died in the holocaust are burning in hell, and Hitler was only following the rules. Is this what you suggest I teach my children? Disgusting.

The Bible shields nothing from us, so that we may come to our own conclusions. I do not suggest that you teach your children that Jews are burning in Hell, as I do not believe Hell has happened yet, because Heaven hasn't happened yet. I believe there's an order to things. I would instead invite you to express whatever teachings of the Bible you have to the children's father so that he can defend Christianity any way he sees fit. I am not in charge of how you raise your kids, instead I'm asking if it's fair to close their minds to faith so early in life, is that truly allowing them to choose? By explaining proof through something they can see, you are closing their minds to divine proof, which appears in their lives. They can find historical evidence for the Bible, but their faith will come from what is unseen.

In response to your comments on Hell.
"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books." Revelation 20:12

All people will be judged, Jew & Gentile.

"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged under the law. For it is not those that hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be decalred righteous." Romans 2:12-13

All people who live apart from God's ways will be judged according to what they have done, all people who live under the law will be judged under the law, and all people who live in Jesus Christ, will be judged in him. Therefore the Jews that you think are "burning" may end up in a better situation than you think, but we won't know until the books are opened.

Concerning Duet. 17:12. Think on this, would you have the gull to reject the verdict made against you in a court of law? It wouldn't matter would it? When you fall into the hands of the judge the verdict will run its course. Anyone who has the gull to reject the ultimate judge will surely be put to death, because Heaven is acceptance of God and Hell is the second death, it's rejection.

"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14-15

If I were truly the one to help you teach your kids anything, it would be never to judge a book by its cover, it's clear to me that you have knowledge of the Scriptures, but everything repulses you ever since you read the History of the Jews. If anyone should be angry, it's the Jews, are you Jewish?

[Erinome]

Having faith suspends thinking.

Divine proof? Where? Show us? Proof isn't proof if your senses can't behold it.

All that stuff was written by men. Men lie. Proven fact.

I'm in college studying astrophysics, so my mind is geared towards scientific reasoning. These scriptures are the mad rantings of ancient people, and some of it is just allegorical nonsense. It has no basis or function in reality. If you had a basic understanding of the universe, there is no way you could believe these things to be true. I am certainly not going to allow my children to fear some sort of supernatural judgement. What kind of mother would I be if I told them I didn't have proof it was true, but rather had faith that if they were naughty, they will one day be tossed into a lake of fire.

And, no, I am not a Jew. I was raised Catholic, and I came to my senses as a young adult, so I'm an atheist.

[Minimalist]

It gets confusing who is saying what when you don't adhere to the quoting rules.

Not really. If it is inane I assume Salty said it.

Please do explain more about the glories of the holocaust and all the benefits that came out of it.

[Faith No More]

Salty would you be so neutral when teaching your kids, would you expose them to other religions .... I doubt it?

I still want Salty to answer this question.

[Kayenneh]

And I would like him(?) to answer my question about who's allowed to edit the Bible to one's personal conviction. I mean, if even Christians think that parts can be left out, I'd say that wake up and smell the steaming pile of bullshit.

[Erinome]

I think they should take out the lake of fire scenario. It's so middle earth. A lake of theists would be more excruciating.

I just had a shocking revelation that I might actually be in hell.

[salty]

Having faith suspends thinking.

Divine proof? Where? Show us? Proof isn't proof if your senses can't behold it.

All that stuff was written by men. Men lie. Proven fact.

I'm in college studying astrophysics, so my mind is geared towards scientific reasoning. These scriptures are the mad rantings of ancient people, and some of it is just allegorical nonsense. It has no basis or function in reality. If you had a basic understanding of the universe, there is no way you could believe these things to be true. I am certainly not going to allow my children to fear some sort of supernatural judgement. What kind of mother would I be if I told them I didn't have proof it was true, but rather had faith that if they were naughty, they will one day be tossed into a lake of fire.

And, no, I am not a Jew. I was raised Catholic, and I came to my senses as a young adult, so I'm an atheist.

I understand.

[The Grand Nudger]

psst, rc is a false faith...not christian...lol.