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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm
(July 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If I had a toaster, I bet it wouldn’t make ad hominem attacks. Besides, anything that causes an issue, we can redefine.
If you had a toaster, it probably would. Since you do it all the time. Only using the word 'sin'.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:24 pm
(July 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (July 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If I had a toaster, I bet it wouldn’t make ad hominem attacks. Besides, anything that causes an issue, we can redefine.
If you had a toaster, it probably would. Since you do it all the time. Only using the word 'sin'.
That’s not ad hominem. Unless perhaps, I just start calling you a sinner, completely apart from the discussion and with no context in the conversation.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:34 pm
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(July 17, 2018 at 9:06 am)Khemikal Wrote: The difference is that I deserve basic human rights and equal protection under law, in the eyes of many christians...whereas a homosexual does not.
The illogical Christian answer: a gay man has just as much right to marry a woman as a straight man does, just as a gay woman has just as much right to marry a man as a straight woman does.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:36 pm
If you purposely show your own ignorance, you will be called out on your stupidity so that others do not follow such ill paths as you.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:40 pm
(July 17, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Cecelia Wrote: If you purposely show your own ignorance, you will be called out on your stupidity so that others do not follow such ill paths as you.
So, I take it you think those arguments where invalid.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:43 pm
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(July 17, 2018 at 10:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I note in the Mormon world, in less than 200 years, the concept of marriage has been updated, redefined and changed numerous times.
Clearly, Mormons are the wrong kind of Christians. 
(July 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If I had a toaster, I bet it wouldn’t make ad hominem attacks. Besides, anything that causes an issue, we can redefine.
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July 17, 2018 at 3:56 pm
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I explained to my wife what our resident Christians are trying to use as arguments here. She had trouble believing I was serious.
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July 17, 2018 at 4:09 pm
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(July 17, 2018 at 3:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: I explained to my wife what our resident Christians are trying to use as arguments here. She had trouble believing I was serious.
So she thinks it's silly when applied to single people or those who love toasters? Is she toasterphobic? If she says she doesn't hate toasters, don't believe her, and call her more nasty names. Ask her if single people are second class citizens.
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July 17, 2018 at 5:36 pm
RR, if you want to marry yourself, by all means, knock yourself out. Your augment aboit toasters though, is just idiocy. Of course, it's what we've come to expect from theists hiding bigotry behind the thin veil of religious belief. Not what I really expected from you, but still less than a surprise.
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July 17, 2018 at 6:00 pm
(July 17, 2018 at 5:36 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: RR, if you want to marry yourself, by all means, knock yourself out. Your augment aboit toasters though, is just idiocy. Of course, it's what we've come to expect from theists hiding bigotry behind the thin veil of religious belief. Not what I really expected from you, but still less than a surprise.
I admit, I made up the thing about toasters, so I’m guessing it’s probably a low percentage of the population that seeks that level of toaster commitment. But nothing surprises me anymore. And this has nothing to do with what you imagine as bigotry. The question is why do you find it idiotic? Do you find the arguments bad, or are you just a hateful bigot when it comes to toasty appliances. Doesn’t everyone deserve equal rights?
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