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Hello and question about hell
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am
(August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(August 7, 2018 at 7:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I don't know...

See how easy that was?

You don't know if you believe him or not? Remarkable.

Only idiots jump to conclusions when provided little information...
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 10:36 am (This post was last modified: August 9, 2018 at 10:38 am by Angrboda.)
(August 9, 2018 at 10:30 am)robvalue Wrote: Man it must be tiring to think there's this thing watching you every second, judging every little thing you do, based on some weird scorecard you never get to look at directly.

Well, it would be tiring to care if this was happening, anyway.

I was a Hindu, and Kali was my god, but I never felt watched or gave it much thought. I think that's more an intellectual idea than something believers actually experience.


(August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You don't know if you believe him or not? Remarkable.

Only idiots jump to conclusions when provided little information...

Not really. It tends to be rather widespread. But it's nice to know where your priorities lie.
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You don't know if you believe him or not? Remarkable.

Only idiots jump to conclusions when provided little information...

If you don't know if you believe someone, you don't believe them, 'genius'.
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Only idiots jump to conclusions when provided little information...

If you don't know if you believe someone, you don't believe them, 'genius'.

Then you're calling them a liar...

I'd need more info before I'd call someone a liar, it's called 'giving someone the benefit of the doubt'...

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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 5:46 pm
How do words even work? What's it mean?
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 9, 2018 at 5:47 pm
The benefit of doubt is what is keeping mankind as prey to con men talking about god. A cathegory you belong huggy. So no to that giving the benefit of doubt.
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 10, 2018 at 3:00 pm (This post was last modified: August 10, 2018 at 3:01 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(August 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you don't know if you believe someone, you don't believe them, 'genius'.

Then you're calling them a liar...

I'd need more info before I'd call someone a liar, it's called 'giving someone the benefit of the doubt'...

Dummy.

If you don't hold his story to be true, you don't believe him, because of what the word 'believe' means. It's a mental state of holding something to be true. If you're not in a mental state of belief regarding something, you don't believe it. It's called 'understanding how words work'.
(August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You don't know if you believe him or not? Remarkable.

Only idiots jump to conclusions when provided little information...

Speaking of jumping to conclusions....
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 10, 2018 at 5:07 pm (This post was last modified: August 10, 2018 at 5:40 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(August 7, 2018 at 11:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 7, 2018 at 2:50 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: A non-functional brain might not hallucinate, but who is to say the hallucinations didn't occur while the brain was still functional? Unless you have some kind of spectral stopwatch, you can't make that determination.

According to the patients testimony, she was outside her body and able to observe the surgery and  recount conversation between the staff, this is DURING the time the brain was not functioning as corroborated by the surgical staff.

I've been through this case with a Mormon user a while back. I took the time to read several things he/she submitted as evidence. Nothing was conclusive.

This is the thread if you are interested.

This is a sceptical website's examination of Reynold's case.

I think this boils down to what you find personally convincing, Huggy. Some people are convinced that aliens are visiting our planet after seeing a photo of a blurry dot. Not me. I need something more substantial to conclude that an extraordinary thing has happened.
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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 10, 2018 at 5:43 pm
(August 10, 2018 at 5:07 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I think this boils down to what you find personally convincing, Huggy. Some people are convinced that aliens are visiting our planet after seeing a photo of a blurry dot.

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RE: Hello and question about hell
August 10, 2018 at 10:16 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you don't know if you believe someone, you don't believe them, 'genius'.

Then you're calling them a liar...

No, it's taking the position of not believing them. Not everything is binary.
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