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In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am)Mathilda Wrote: Yes I was kind of surprised that it was back from 2013.

As Mister Agenda said, Huggy doesn't seem to understand the word 'most'.

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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm
(August 21, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Clearly examples of why an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral.

If an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral, how in the world will they ever recognize a correct moral authority. You just can't get around the necessity of individuals deciding for themselves what is right, though in all cases this is not done in a vacuum. People grow up not just in a village but in a culture. The only question is whether it is more moral to remain in unthinking obedience to the norms of the culture one inherits or to recognize ones responsibility to criticize those norms in the light of current conditions.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:14 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:16 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(August 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
Not interested in dating your boyfriend.
Does loving your mother make her your girlfriend? wait, don't answer that. The mullet pic is all I need.

(August 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
Quote:2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.
Seems like certain christians have a huge problem with this one.....but maybe that's because they're self loathing pricks who see themselves as degenirate sinners..and they -are- loving others as they love themselves?

Gee, I wonder what might make them see themselves and others that way?  Jerkoff

You can't really have a problem with that and claim to be a christian, now can you?
(August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 11:49 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Hooo boy, another episode of "Huggy's saved posts from years ago in an attempt to make himself feel better in any given thread, but only serve to make him look like a petty lunatic"!  

What episode is next?  Huggy's saved posts about misunderstood and poorly worded questions?  Cherry picking insults from literally 2 fucking years ago (part deux)?  What and see kids!

Yes I was kind of surprised that it was back from 2013.

As Mister Agenda said, Huggy doesn't seem to understand the word 'most'.
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

It does assume that you can choose to love or not love, or be commanded to do so. How sincere can such love be?

Mr God sounds more like an abusive spouse.

Love that come from the heart is sincere.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 22, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Does loving your mother make her your girlfriend? wait, don't answer that. The mullet pic is all I need.
It certainly did in the case of jesus, now didn't it?  

Quote:You can't really have a problem with that and claim to be a christian, now can you?

Obviously, christians can and do have a problem with it and still call themselves christians.  Maybe you should go and harass them about that one? Show em some christian love.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:18 pm by I_am_not_mafia.)
(August 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(August 21, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Clearly examples of why an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral.

If an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral, how in the world will they ever recognize a correct moral authority.  You just can't get around the necessity of individuals deciding for themselves what is right, though in all cases this is not done in a vacuum.  People grow up not just in a village but in a culture.  The only question is whether it is more moral to remain in unthinking obedience to the norms of the culture one inherits or to recognize ones responsibility to criticize those norms in the light of current conditions.

Huggy will just ignore this post like my one asking how he knows that his moral authority is the correct one.
(August 22, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am)Mathilda Wrote: Yes I was kind of surprised that it was back from 2013.

As Mister Agenda said, Huggy doesn't seem to understand the word 'most'.

It does assume that you can choose to love or not love, or be commanded to do so. How sincere can such love be?

Mr God sounds more like an abusive spouse.

Love that come from the heart is sincere.

So why the need to command it?
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:19 pm
(August 21, 2018 at 5:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Rolleyes

What is an athiest's moral authority? What puts them on the same moral page?

I have empathy. That is all that is needed for morality.



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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Well Huggy, in plain words, you are a piss poor excuse to tell us about morals. And your bible is also the same. I mean, you should know that the bible has zero sway with most of us. Not mentioning the fact that some of ot is abhorrently immoral, it isn't even self consistent.

You can love your god all you want and are free to do so. That fact however gives you zero leverage on judging others morals.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:24 pm
American Christians seem to be the worst sort of humans with the least morals, they advocate all sorts of abuses as a matter of course and don't even seem to realise they are doing it.
British Christians are generally benign and almost impossible to tell apart from atheists.



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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:33 pm
(August 22, 2018 at 12:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: American Christians seem to be the worst sort of humans with the least morals, they advocate all sorts of abuses as a matter of course and don't even seem to realise they are doing it.
British Christians are generally benign and almost impossible to tell apart from atheists.

I can say that holds true in Portugal, barring some minor evangelicals, JWs and the odd mormon.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm
(August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 21, 2018 at 1:51 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Fewer than 25% believe religion is a force for good. Over 50% believe atheism a force for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4

How do atheists define morality?

Not fucking the altar boys.
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