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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 11:39 am
The part where a sum loss in energy is a problem for intentional remediation. I don't think you appreciate the goal of recycled fuels.
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 12:44 pm
(April 3, 2020 at 11:39 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The part where a sum loss in energy is a problem for intentional remediation. I don't think you appreciate the goal of recycled fuels.
You sound like Trump. Expounding upon that which you have no real knowledge. Somebody stuck a PC term (recycle) on something and you swallowed it whole.
Exactly what do you think this process gains? The only way it reduces atmospheric contamination is if you DON'T BURN IT. If you do - you have the exact same amounts of hydrogen and carbon you started out with PLUS whatever contamination you create using the energy to make the fuel.
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 12:50 pm
The fuck does culture war have to do with recycled fuel, lol?
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 1:16 pm
At work.
I think I understand Onlinebiker's ideas.
One of their posts was correct. In that it is taking/costing 'Energy' to create the 'Eco-fuel' and hence, due to entropy in any system, you always have an efficiency loss from one to the next.
The issue I think Onlinebiker is missing is that there's a... difference in the energy types being discussed.
Solar, wind and hydro generate electrical energy which really can't be stored efficiently atm.
So, the idea I am guessing, is to use said electrical energy output to convert the 'waste' CO2 back into (The equivalent) of petrochemicals as a way to better/more efficiently store said energy.
I think I've got that part right?
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 1:27 pm
(April 2, 2020 at 10:01 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I really have a hard time categorizing the last season as winter.
We only cleared the driveway twice - and only really needed to do it once.
I can remember years here in Michigan where we would have to do it TWICE in one day.
I know one season doesn't indicate a change in climate - but my last 20+ years of records from making syrup show an earlier season each year. (You tap trees when it's above freezing during the day and below freezing at night).
I just don't see how anyone can not see the change.
Last year NYT made a neat graph showing the change in major cities. By this measure, the Boston of today feels like the New York of the 20th century. Washington is on its way to resembling the Memphis of old. And Miami is more like Dallas used to be.
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 1:30 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2020 at 1:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Ideally, but even in the case of using fossil fuels - if you can capture more carbon than you emit, it hardly matters that you've used energy.
Whatever energy you might have made in the process...say as a useful fuel, will offset the cost of remediation - even if you operate at sum energy loss.
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 1:55 pm
(April 3, 2020 at 1:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ideally, but even in the case of using fossil fuels - if you can capture more carbon than you emit, it hardly matters that you've used energy.
Whatever energy you might have made in the process...say as a useful fuel, will offset the cost of remediation - even if you operate at sum energy loss.
And where is all this mythical energy going to come from?
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 2:01 pm
At work.
(April 3, 2020 at 1:55 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (April 3, 2020 at 1:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ideally, but even in the case of using fossil fuels - if you can capture more carbon than you emit, it hardly matters that you've used energy.
Whatever energy you might have made in the process...say as a useful fuel, will offset the cost of remediation - even if you operate at sum energy loss.
And where is all this mythical energy going to come from?
Well.... as I already pointed out, the 'Sun'.
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 2:02 pm
The local utility company is the safe bet...don't you think?
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RE: Last Non-winter
April 3, 2020 at 2:13 pm
(April 3, 2020 at 2:02 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The local utility company is the safe bet...don't you think?
You just don't know. Do you?
Not a clue, you don't even care.
You just want to make victorious noises and do the company chant - "green - green - green!".
Fckn pathetic
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