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America’s Chief Export
#51
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 8:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The fact that 5 yos do kill 3 yos with Mommy's gun is, I guess, irrelevant. Gotchas are all some people have. Even when they're lame gotchas.

I had to look up condition 3. Basically (from the standpoint of a toddler), what OLB is suggesting is giving a child an unloaded gun. 

I’m ok with that.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#52
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 8:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 8:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The fact that 5 yos do kill 3 yos with Mommy's gun is, I guess, irrelevant. Gotchas are all some people have. Even when they're lame gotchas.

I had to look up condition 3. Basically (from the standpoint of a toddler), what OLB is suggesting is giving a child an unloaded gun. 

I’m ok with that.

Boru

The suggestion seems to be that a child can never, ever, totally impossible ratchet a semi-automatic to load a round. This presumes that the piece isn't "ready for immediate home use." Given that some of my relatives have shot other people in the ass by simply sitting down I'm not so sure.

[carpet chewing reply goes here]
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#53
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 8:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 8:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The fact that 5 yos do kill 3 yos with Mommy's gun is, I guess, irrelevant. Gotchas are all some people have. Even when they're lame gotchas.

I had to look up condition 3. Basically (from the standpoint of a toddler), what OLB is suggesting is giving a child an unloaded gun. 

I’m ok with that.

Boru

Correct. A SAO (single action only) semi auto with the magazine full, chamber empty - requires the slide to be drawn back and released (chambering a bullet ) to be ready to fire.

Many adults (women mostly) do not have the hand strength to operate the slide. Thus the gun is not capable of firing. 

But don't listen to people who really know guns - listen to the people with emotionally charged and largely fact free stories...

Rampant enotionalism is always better for decision making than logic.
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#54
RE: America’s Chief Export
Boss Lady has fired numerous 9mms. Never had any problem. So sexist remarks are just that.
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#55
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 8:31 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 8:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I had to look up condition 3. Basically (from the standpoint of a toddler), what OLB is suggesting is giving a child an unloaded gun. 

I’m ok with that.

Boru

Correct. A SAO (single action only) semi auto with the magazine full, chamber empty - requires the slide to be drawn back and released (chambering a bullet ) to be ready to fire.

Many adults (women mostly) do not have the hand strength to operate the slide. Thus the gun is not capable of firing. 

But don't listen to people who really know guns - listen to the people with emotionally charged and largely fact free stories...

Rampant enotionalism is always better for decision making than logic.

You’re missing the point. Leaving a pistol within reach that a child can’t fire is utterly and completely not the issue. 

But there ARE people who allow children access to weapons they CAN fire. And what generally happens to these people is...nothing. I’m suggesting that making examples out of a few of them by enforcing the law might just possibly reduce the number of children killing their siblings and playmates.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#56
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 8:34 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Boss Lady has fired numerous 9mms. Never had any problem. So sexist remarks are just that.

How many women have you seen try to operate a SAO like a 1911a? One? Two?

I would say my years as a gun salesman gave me just a BIT more experience observing women handling guns.

For a guy who doesn't know a patch box from a powder horn (you proved you didn't) I think I probably know a bit more about guns than you.

(April 21, 2020 at 8:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 8:31 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Correct. A SAO (single action only) semi auto with the magazine full, chamber empty - requires the slide to be drawn back and released (chambering a bullet ) to be ready to fire.

Many adults (women mostly) do not have the hand strength to operate the slide. Thus the gun is not capable of firing. 

But don't listen to people who really know guns - listen to the people with emotionally charged and largely fact free stories...

Rampant enotionalism is always better for decision making than logic.

You’re missing the point. Leaving a pistol within reach that a child can’t fire is utterly and completely not the issue. 

But there ARE people who allow children access to weapons they CAN fire. And what generally happens to these people is...nothing. I’m suggesting that making examples out of a few of them by enforcing the law might just possibly reduce the number of children killing their siblings and playmates.

Boru

I can't say I disagree with you. The problem is we keep getting new laws from the worst possible source - people who hate and do not understand firearns. Laws passed in a panic of emotionalisn - that do little - and as you note- rarely get enforced.
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#57
RE: America’s Chief Export
Talking at OnlyLoudBickering is like using a port-a-potty on the last day of the Burning Man Festival. Not worth it.

https://www.usacarry.com/racking-pistol-...-strength/
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#58
RE: America’s Chief Export
(April 21, 2020 at 10:02 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Talking at OnlyLoudBickering is like using a port-a-potty on the last day of the Burning Man Festival. Not worth it.

https://www.usacarry.com/racking-pistol-...-strength/

You really are an ignorant fuck ain't ya?

Your posted link CONFIRMS what I said.

It takes TECHNIQUE to operate the slide on most larger SAO pistols.  Trying to brute strength it when you barely have the strength doesn't work.

You have to LEARN how to do it.


Are you the dumb fuck that shows toddlers how to do it?


I believe you about your dumb cousins...

It's obviously genetic.
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#59
RE: America’s Chief Export
Leaving an unsecured firearm where a child can access it is illegal no matter how much technique it takes to operate the firearm.

There are no clauses in child endangerment and cap laws that say "unless it's super hard to use". If that was a persons defense in court, and it worked, that would be an example of lax enforcement.
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#60
RE: America’s Chief Export
And my wife has no problem with the slide on a 9, something you have been dancing around like that Kansas City faggot from Blazing Saddles.

Tell, me, OldLoudBuffoon, would a woman buy a gun she couldn't operate? I know you're that stupid, but a woman wants a gun she can use, not fuck.
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