US police brutality item

[The Architect Of Fate]

Huh that's funny 

https://globalnews.ca/news/7012541/asphy...d-autopsy/

An autopsy commissioned for George Floyd’s family found that he died of asphyxiation due to neck and back compression when a Minneapolis police officer held his knee on Floyd’s neck for several minutes and ignored his cries of distress, the family’s attorneys said Monday.

The autopsy by a doctor who also examined Eric Garner’s body found the compression cut off blood to Floyd’s brain, and weight on his back made it hard to breathe, attorney Ben Crump said at a news conference.

“The evidence is consistent with mechanical asphyxia as the cause of death and homicide as the manner of death,” Allecia Wilson, one of the doctors who conducted the family’s autopsy, said at a press conference on Monday.

Dr. Michael Baden, who conducted the autopsy with Wilson, said neither drugs nor alcohol were the cause of Floyd’s death. He said it took three minutes and 50 seconds for Floyd to die. 

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From another source 6 hours ago 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52886593

This report said Mr Floyd died from asphyxia (lack of oxygen) due to a compression on his neck and also on his back. It also found the death was a homicide, 

"The cause of death in my opinion is asphyxia, due to compression to the neck - which can interfere with oxygen going to the brain - and compression to the back, which interferes with breathing," Dr Michael Baden, a former New York City medical examiner, said at a news conference on Monday.

[brokenreflector]

So any drugs in Lloyd's system are not the cause of his death, but a contributing factor.  But - as LFC pointed out - drugs are not listed as a contributing factor in either autopsy report.
The cause of Lloyd's death is Chauvin's knee on his neck. 

Boru

Even more technically, George Floyd broke the law by using a counterfeit 20-dollar bill to buy cigarettes and uncooperative with police if not fully resisting arrest, which lead to him being restrained, which lead to him being killed. He was also on drugs which was probably a factor that contributed to his poor decision to resist arrest.

Make no mistake though the cop was being a dumbass and deserves at least manslaughter.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So any drugs in Lloyd's system are not the cause of his death, but a contributing factor.  But - as LFC pointed out - drugs are not listed as a contributing factor in either autopsy report.
The cause of Lloyd's death is Chauvin's knee on his neck. 

Boru

Even more technically, George Floyd broke the law by using a counterfeit 20-dollar bill to buy cigarettes and uncooperative with police if not fully resisting arrest, which lead to him being restrained, which lead to him being killed. He was also on drugs which was probably a factor that contributed to his poor decision to resist arrest.

Make no mistake though the cop was being a dumbass and deserves at least manslaughter.

I find myself monumentally uninterested in your opinion about, well, anything.  Have a lovely day.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Sure, lol..let's talk about drunks.  Let's say somebody murders a drunk.  Is it not a murder because the guy was drunk?

Murder implies intent. Premeditated or spur of the moment.
What is your evidence that this case is murder?
Hint - a dead body does not count as evidence of murder.

How about Chauvin keeping his knee in place for minutes after Floyd lost consciousness?  I mean, why would he do that?  An unconscious suspect can't resist and is no threat to the police or anyone else.

The only reason I can come up with is that Chauvin wanted to make good and sure that Floyd was dead. And THAT, mate, is premeditation.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

Even more technically, George Floyd broke the law by using a counterfeit 20-dollar bill to buy cigarettes and uncooperative with police if not fully resisting arrest, which lead to him being restrained, which lead to him being killed. He was also on drugs which was probably a factor that contributed to his poor decision to resist arrest.

Make no mistake though the cop was being a dumbass and deserves at least manslaughter.

I find myself monumentally uninterested in your opinion about, well, anything.  Have a lovely day.

Boru

Counterfeit isn't a violent crime 
The evidence of resisting is nil and restrained and having someone intentionally knee him after he was already subduded isn't restraint it's brutality
The drug argument is disputed 

None of this justifies anything . This idiot is trying desperately mudding the waters

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Even more technically, George Floyd broke the law by using a counterfeit 20-dollar bill to buy cigarettes and uncooperative with police if not fully resisting arrest, which lead to him being restrained, which lead to him being killed. He was also on drugs which was probably a factor that contributed to his poor decision to resist arrest.

Make no mistake though the cop was being a dumbass and deserves at least manslaughter.

I find myself monumentally uninterested in your opinion about, well, anything.  Have a lovely day.

Boru

I'm convinced he's just here to stir shit up

[brokenreflector]

How about Chauvin keeping his knee in place for minutes after Floyd lost consciousness?  I mean, why would he do that?

Poor training? Lapse in judgement? He didn't realize the guy was dying?

That's much more likely than your conspiracy that he intentionally killed a guy just because he was black in front of a bunch of witnesses with cameras, completely fucking his life up in the process.

I thought you guys were skeptics? Lmao.

[The Grand Nudger]

If killing a black guy on video ruined a cops life, maybe they would do it less often. Honestly, that's pretty much the whole enchilada. If it were true, our institutions would be just that much more equitable in the treatment of our citizens, and the fact that it isn't is the source of frustration and anxiety that boils over as civil unrest.

In mere reality, ofc.

[Brian37]

How about Chauvin keeping his knee in place for minutes after Floyd lost consciousness?  I mean, why would he do that?

Poor training? Lapse in judgement? He didn't realize the guy was dying?

That's much more likely than your conspiracy that he intentionally killed a guy just because he was black in front of a bunch of witnesses with cameras, completely fucking his life up in the process.

I thought you guys were skeptics? Lmao.

It doesn't matter what George Floyd did or didn't do. He was unarmed, he was handcuffed behind his back with 3 cops sitting on him one with a knee on his neck. THAT KILLED HIM. It became premeditation when George pleaded for his life, said he couldn't breath, called the officer "sir" and even called out to his mother before he passed out. And the officer kept his knee on George's neck even after he passed out.  There was enough time in that 8 minutes while he was on the ground for those officers to make adjustments.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Poor training? Lapse in judgement? He didn't realize the guy was dying?

It doesn't take good raining to not knee someone .there were three fucking cops there none of them seemed panicked. George was literally telling them he was in pain and could not breathe . 

That's much more likely than your conspiracy that he intentionally killed a guy just because he was black in front of a bunch of witnesses with cameras, completely fucking his life up in the process.

It's not a conspiracy that cops think they are above the law and will do shit knowing the consequences will be minimal 

I thought you guys were skeptics? Lmao.

We are you clearly are aren't

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Poor training? Lapse in judgement? He didn't realize the guy was dying?

That's much more likely than your conspiracy that he intentionally killed a guy just because he was black in front of a bunch of witnesses with cameras, completely fucking his life up in the process.

I thought you guys were skeptics? Lmao.

It doesn't matter what George Floyd did or didn't do. He was unarmed, he was handcuffed behind his back with 3 cops sitting on him one with a knee on his neck. THAT KILLED HIM. It became premeditation when George pleaded for his life, said he couldn't breath, called the officer "sir" and even called out to his mother before he passed out. And the officer kept his knee on George's neck even after he passed out.  There was enough time in that 8 minutes while he was on the ground for those officers to make adjustments.

Not to mention as i said they clearly believed they could get away with it as it incredibly difficult to actually charge a cop or even fire one and often if they are fired in one area they just go work as a cop elsewhere .So life ruined the only persons life who was ruined was the man who died .

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

How about Chauvin keeping his knee in place for minutes after Floyd lost consciousness?  I mean, why would he do that?

Poor training? Lapse in judgement? He didn't realize the guy was dying?

That's much more likely than your conspiracy that he intentionally killed a guy just because he was black in front of a bunch of witnesses with cameras, completely fucking his life up in the process.

I thought you guys were skeptics? Lmao.

*yawn*

Boru