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US police brutality item
RE: US police brutality item
I'll go so far as to add this.  All the talk about "dominating the battlespace", and looking like jerks getting their asses handed to them?  

Those guys are right, they're just on the wrong side.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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My problem with "eating the rich" is that vilifying people just because they are successful doesn't seem fair although viewing the economy as a zero sum game means that they ARE getting their stuff directly from us and both parties are supporting lax taxation on the upper earners so...

I guess civil war? What do I win?
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RE: US police brutality item
Can't eat the rich. Conflict is expensive.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Everyone seems to feel the only way to ameliorate the rottenness of police culture in the US is through violence. That’s disheartening, to say the least.

Do it through funding.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Well, not everyone. In my experience, almost no one.

Funding would be great....but have you ever taken a look at disparities in funding? We give our police force a ton of stuff, they use it for what you're seeing now.

Honestly, alot of it has no other use. Whenever I see a pic of cops in some city that gives me nostalgia, I know that we're fucking up. I know what that gear is for. I know how it feels against my skin. I can keep going into straight pron if you like.

Wink

I just had A Idea, a non violent one. The cops can sell me gear for funding. I want it, but they'll have to change some laws so that I can have it. I know I'm not the only one. I'm pitching the wife on it right now.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(June 3, 2020 at 4:36 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Well, not everyone.  In my experience, almost no one.

Funding would be great....but have you ever taken a look at disparities in funding?  We give our police force a ton of stuff, they use it for what you're seeing now.

Not handing out funding - withholding it. Require that any cop with a verified force complaint be fired within 30 days (and be barred for life from ever working in law enforcement again) or that police department loses all federal monies.

If a department investigates a complaint and finds it unfounded, it is forwarded to a new federal agency (ideally staffed by civil rights lawyers). Upon review, if they find it to be a legitimate complaint - in spite of the cop’s internal investigation - the police department in question loses all federal monies.

What have you got to lose?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Oh, cut their funding? Then they'd hired a bunch of dropout dummies...and give them my gear.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(June 3, 2020 at 4:46 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Oh, cut their funding?  Then they'd hired a bunch of dropout dummies...and give them my gear.

As opposed to the highly effective uber-efficient ones they have now? I think what’s much more likely to happen is that police departments will quickly start to do a better job of policing themselves.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Right? That's the fun part. The impossibility of this problem isn't a coincidence. It's not as though the universe itself conspired to make any other route a non-starter.

Give me what I want or I'll hurt you.
If you give me what I want....I'll hurt you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: US police brutality item
(June 3, 2020 at 4:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Right?  That's the fun part.  The impossibility of this problem isn't a coincidence.  It's not as though the universe itself conspired to make any other route a non-starter.

The point is that it’s NOT an impossible problem. Trump is missing a chance to be a genuine hero - given the way he gets a chubby every time he weaponizes money, he should jump at this idea in a short minute.

(Re your edit): more like ‘do what your supposed to do, and we’ll give you money’.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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