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RE: God's Love
June 20, 2020 at 8:55 pm
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Quote:It was given to all. You too. You just rejected it. Up to now. But you can always change you know.
It was not. You can't even define what a "god" is.
So this dishonest lying fucker, Johan, thinks he can read minds.
Isn't that special.
Apparently his deity is so fucking stupid that he wouldn't know if someone who honestly does not believe says, they do.
Dumb god ya got there, Jo baby.
One cannot reject what one does not accept, and never has. Your dishonest generalization is false.
Your intellectual dishonesty is not surprising ... it's the hallmark of rather uneducated fundies, not unlike yourself,
I see you're not worth interacting with.
Ta ta.
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 7:47 am
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am
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(June 20, 2020 at 8:55 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Johanwhatshisface
Quote:It was given to all. You too. You just rejected it. Up to now. But you can always change you know.
It was not. You can't even define what a "god" is.
So this dishonest lying fucker, Johan, thinks he can read minds.
Isn't that special.
Apparently his deity is so fucking stupid that he wouldn't know if someone who honestly does not believe says, they do.
Dumb god ya got there, Jo baby.
One cannot reject what one does not accept, and never has. Your dishonest generalization is false.
Your intellectual dishonesty is not surprising ... it's the hallmark of rather uneducated fundies, not unlike yourself,
I see you're not worth interacting with.
Ta ta.
Quote:It was not.
You never heard Jesus died for the sins of all?
Quote:You can't even define what a "god" is.
That is true. But I know more and more as I grow up in His Life as His Kid. Just as human kids knows more and more about themselves as they grow up.
Quote:So this dishonest lying fucker, Johan, thinks he can read minds.
I never said that. But you can link us of course.
Quote:Apparently his deity is so fucking stupid that he wouldn't know if someone who honestly does not believe says, they do.
Dumb god ya got there, Jo baby.
You full of "angry words". Not good for you. You just get " sick to death". As @ Abaddon_ire will testify to you.
Quote:One cannot reject what one does not accept, and never has. Your dishonest generalization is false.
Your intellectual dishonesty is not surprising ... it's the hallmark of rather uneducated fundies, not unlike yourself,
It doesn't work like that you know. God gave you the Life of His Son.
2 Cor. 5
For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Quote:I see you're not worth interacting with.
That is now your dicipling for having rejected the New Life in Jesus given to you. By that Life I would have had "worth". And you would have benefited from it. Now I am "worthless" to you. Rejected too. While I gave myself to you as your Mother. To give birth to you as our Son, Jesus.
Quote:Ta ta.
Yep. I know. After you rejected Love you can not face it anymore and have to run. To hide with Adam and Eve in the "bushes".
When you realize your mistake we will be waiting because you are Forgiven. God died for your sins and we don't judge you accordingly. You are judged by your own rejection of us.
(June 20, 2020 at 7:06 pm)possibletarian Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 12:26 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: We talked about it already. The ball is now in your court. No use running from your choice. You just need to man up and make it.
Sure as soon as you provide some coherent reason why you believe the bible, why not try answering the questions posed to you instead of just cutting and pasting from the bible ? I have a bible too.
Book of Gibberisho Cha 4v3
3.And they shall quote the bible that they have been deceived by yahweh, their hearts full of deceit, they shall believe falsehoods about the calling of their hearts.
See my friend you have been deceived, the next move is yours the great god El Duffo requires you to give him your worship, otherwise you will become deceived by the old god yahweh, who was naught but a fallen lower deceiving angel and fall into hell itself. Only El Duffo loves you truly.
Quote:Sure as soon as you provide some coherent reason why you believe the bible, why not try answering the questions posed to you instead of just cutting and pasting from the bible ?
I already gave all the reasoning necessary for you to make your choice. And you actually made it already. No use wasting time on something done already.
Quote:I have a bible too.
Book of Gibberisho Cha 4v3
3.And they shall quote the bible that they have been deceived by yahweh, their hearts full of deceit, they shall believe falsehoods about the calling of their hearts.
And this we both know is you being dishonest. It shows. To your disgrace.
Quote:See my friend you have been deceived, the next move is yours the great god El Duffo requires you to give him your worship, otherwise you will become deceived by the old god yahweh, who was naught but a fallen lower deceiving angel and fall into hell itself. Only El Duffo loves you truly.
Some more dishonesty? You like it? I am here to save you from it. As Honesty is much more worthy. And very important to find Joy and Happiness in Life.
(June 20, 2020 at 3:45 pm)brewer Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 11:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Seems your evil spirit of "lust" has taken over your mind. Making you say things that is a disgrace to you. But you can always be saved from yourself. Accepts God's Perfect salvation. Your dearth and resurrections as His Beloved Son, Jesus.
You're so fucked up in the head John. The disgrace in this thread is you. Using a fantasy delusion (god) in an attempt to control and manipulate people for your own sick purposes is the lowest and most evil a person can get.
Now show us your dick.
You only have "name calling" and lust left? Seems you should find someone that is interested? You know I am not. So what make you force yourself and your evil unto me? Trying to be honored by the other "ghosts" for how well you did it? Or just making sure they understand you are with them?
Of course when you want to get restored to what you can be then you will know where to find me. Repenting from being a "sinner" is always accepted by God.
(June 20, 2020 at 1:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 12:26 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: We talked about it already. The ball is now in your court. No use running from your choice. You just need to man up and make it.
Don't back down. You gave them good advice. And this is how Wisdom operates. Giving the advice and then allowing the negative consequences for which you have warned "bite them". Then you don't need to "force your authority" as their "boss". Which is very negative consequences for relationships.
A mistake you made is that they are not "feeding it". I was never fed by it. As @Bucky Ball experienced. As I was rather helpful to show him the door.
But they are just wasting their time with me. They will get no "honor" from debating me and winning their arguments. Because I am not into debating. But they will rather be disciplined by evil spirits and dishonoring their "names". As you can see with @Nomad . Not that they have any. They are living in "incognito". Such a foolish lifestyle produced by "fear" of others knowing you. But knowing one another is so necessary for relationships. But of course this is not important to you all. You like your cold lifestyles in debating only. Honoring one another for his/her "good intellect". And of course fearing the "boss/mods" for their ability to "punish".
And the results. Now you have a forum of "ghosts". Ghosts honoring one another. Staying "warm together" in "ghost life"?
Oops!
There is no heat with "ghosts". Just a passing "delusion".
Your desperation for attention is palpable, lol.
A Mother has to do the best for her Kids. It is not that she is craving their attention. It is just Motherly Love. Serving. Assisting in restoring Life to what it can be. The Best. As Real Love wants that for their Kids. There is no Higher Purpose and Fulfillment in doing this. Even to your enemies.
Mat. 5
43 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
But of course Love does not force. The Kids have to choose for it themselves too. As they are just "Kids" and full of pride in selfish love it comes rather difficult. You will notice this in human babies too. They learn to love as they grow older. In the beginning it is just the mother that loves. And they selfishly just fighting for themselves and what they want. But a mother that keep on loving in forgiveness will reap the benefit later. Then it was all worth it.
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 10:47 am
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 3:45 pm)brewer Wrote: You're so fucked up in the head John. The disgrace in this thread is you. Using a fantasy delusion (god) in an attempt to control and manipulate people for your own sick purposes is the lowest and most evil a person can get.
Now show us your dick.
You only have "name calling" and lust left? Seems you should find someone that is interested? Of course when you want to get restored to what you can be then you will know where to find me. Repenting from being a "sinner" is always accepted by God.
I've helped more homeless (and regular folk) than you will in your entire life, and all without using god as some weird false pretense.
I'll continue to call you names that you have earned and will repent nothing.
Your constant mental masturbation to the delusion is your own worst enemy. Your two faced antics show that you're a fake and can never be trusted.
Found your dick yet?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 10:50 am
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(June 20, 2020 at 11:45 am)possibletarian Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 11:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Seems your evil spirit of "lust" has taken over your mind. Making you say things that is a disgrace to you. But you can always be saved from yourself. Accepts God's Perfect salvation. Your dearth and resurrections as His Beloved Son, Jesus.
Rom 6
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I know you have read scripture is like sword..etc.
But really used like you use it, it's just gibberish.
Babies do not comprehend in the beginning. They learn by hearing the words often.
(June 21, 2020 at 10:47 am)brewer Wrote: (June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You only have "name calling" and lust left? Seems you should find someone that is interested? Of course when you want to get restored to what you can be then you will know where to find me. Repenting from being a "sinner" is always accepted by God.
I've helped more homeless (and regular folk) than you will in your entire life, and all without using god as some weird false pretense.
I'll continue to call you names that you have earned and will repent nothing.
Your constant mental masturbation to the delusion is your own worst enemy. Your two faced antics show that you're a fake and can never be trusted.
Found your dick yet?
Quote:I've helped more homeless (and regular folk) than you will in your entire life,
You very proud on how "good" you are? Better than everybody else?
Quote:and all without using god as some weird false pretense.
When "help" is motivated by God then it is the Ultimate. Only in His Love are you able to do it totally Unselfishly. And only in His Ability our Ability becomes Perfect. Obviously the Higher the quality of your help the more it benefits both parties.
Quote:I'll continue to call you names that you have earned and will repent nothing.
Well I did warn you. As evil makes the user "sick to death".
Quote:Your constant mental masturbation to the delusion is your own worst enemy. Your two faced antics show that you're a fake and can never be trusted.
No problem to me. It is you that have to eat the spirit by which you give those words out. As they don't come from "nowhere". They come from an evil spirit. Right out of your soul.
Quote:Found your dick yet?
Some more "lustful" words from an evil spirit of "lust"?
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 11:59 am
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(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You never heard Jesus died for the sins of all?
It was never the role of the Jewish messiah to "die for sins". It's not a Biblical notion. Christians cooked it up, when the end-times didn't happen as they predicted.
Even the disciples said "Wilt Thou O Lord, at this time, restore the kingdom to Israel" .... That's what the role of a messiah was. Your Jebus failed in that.
When the young man in Matthew asked what he had to do to get into heaven, did Jesus say "Oh, just you wait, Im'a gonna be dyin' for y'all "? Nope.
He said "Keep the commandments" ... that's all. The rest your stupid cult cooked up later.
Quote:You can't even define what a "god" is.
Quote:That is true. But I know more and more as I grow up in His Life as His Kid. Just as human kids knows more and more about themselves as they grow up.
You forgot to say what that is. I shall assume you have no clue what a god is.
Quote:So this dishonest lying fucker, Johan, thinks he can read minds.
Quote:I never said that. But you can link us of course.
Actually you did. You said I rejected faith. You were reading my mind, as well as judging me, which your Jebus told you not to do.
Quote:Apparently his deity is so fucking stupid that he wouldn't know if someone who honestly does not believe says, they do.
Dumb god ya got there, Jo baby.
Quote:You full of "angry words". Not good for you. You just get "sick to death". As @Abaddon_ire will testify to you.
Nope. Just a logical conclusion from what YOU said. You should stop placing your god up for ridicule.
Quote:It doesn't work like that you know. God gave you the Life of His Son.
In your delusional world it doesn't work that way. Grow up.
BTW have you thanked your Jebus for Covid19 today ?
Stop the Babble quotes already. There are no gods, and they gave us nothing.
We do NOT accept the authority of your Babble quotes. You know that. Why would an idiot keep posting shit from a book he KNOWS we do not accept ? You're a VERY POOR excuse for a preacher.
Quote:That is now your dicipling for having rejected the New Life in Jesus given to you. By that Life I would have had "worth". And you would have benefited from it. Now I am "worthless" to you. Rejected too. While I gave myself to you as your Mother. To give birth to you as our Son, Jesus.
Bla bla bla. You're not my mother.
Your brand of this rubbish is the usual Fundamentalist crap ... a minority view in religious circles. Your approach is quite scandalous.
There is a book you should buy on Amazon called "How NOT to Share Your Faith".
You appear to be a rank beginner at this. You really ought to go take some classes and learn both how to present ideas and learn about the ideas.
You clearly know next to nothing about world religions and in particular Judaism and Christianity. Your hermeneutic of judgement is not Christian.
What you are, is yet another rank amateur charlatan, pretending to present a religion he knows nothing about, because he GETS OFF on judging other people.
Get help. You need it badly.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm
(June 21, 2020 at 10:50 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(June 21, 2020 at 10:47 am)brewer Wrote: I've helped more homeless (and regular folk) than you will in your entire life, and all without using god as some weird false pretense.
I'll continue to call you names that you have earned and will repent nothing.
Your constant mental masturbation to the delusion is your own worst enemy. Your two faced antics show that you're a fake and can never be trusted.
Found your dick yet?
Quote:I've helped more homeless (and regular folk) than you will in your entire life,
You very proud on how "good" you are? Better than everybody else?
Quote:and all without using god as some weird false pretense.
When "help" is motivated by God then it is the Ultimate. Only in His Love are you able to do it totally Unselfishly. And only in His Ability our Ability becomes Perfect. Obviously the Higher the quality of your help the more it benefits both parties.
Quote:I'll continue to call you names that you have earned and will repent nothing.
Well I did warn you. As evil makes the user "sick to death".
Quote:Your constant mental masturbation to the delusion is your own worst enemy. Your two faced antics show that you're a fake and can never be trusted.
No problem to me. It is you that have to eat the spirit by which you give those words out. As they don't come from "nowhere". They come from an evil spirit. Right out of your soul.
Quote:Found your dick yet?
Some more "lustful" words from an evil spirit of "lust"?
That fact that you can only relate to ideas when presented in concrete ways is quite telling.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 12:33 pm
(June 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)brewer Wrote: (June 21, 2020 at 10:50 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
You very proud on how "good" you are? Better than everybody else?
When "help" is motivated by God then it is the Ultimate. Only in His Love are you able to do it totally Unselfishly. And only in His Ability our Ability becomes Perfect. Obviously the Higher the quality of your help the more it benefits both parties.
Well I did warn you. As evil makes the user "sick to death".
No problem to me. It is you that have to eat the spirit by which you give those words out. As they don't come from "nowhere". They come from an evil spirit. Right out of your soul.
Some more "lustful" words from an evil spirit of "lust"?
That fact that you can only relate to ideas when presented in concrete ways is quite telling.
For him, posting Babble quotes is like playing with his dick.
It's a habit he cannot break.
For the rest of his preaching career, (may it be short), every time he does Babble quotes, he will say to himself "Why am I playing with my dick again ?"
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 12:47 pm
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You never heard Jesus died for the sins of all? You claim he isn't dead at all. So according to you, jesus sacrificed nothing.
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: That is true. But I know more and more as I grow up in His Life as His Kid. Just as human kids knows more and more about themselves as they grow up. But you claim to be god's wife, not his kid. How incestuous are you intending to be?
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: I never said that. But you can link us of course. Why? Forgotten what you posted?
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You full of "angry words". Not good for you. You just get "sick to death". As @Abaddon_ire will testify to you. Yes. Now everyone here is sick to death of your utter crap.
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It doesn't work like that you know. God gave you the Life of His Son. You claim that jesus did no such thing since you claim he is alive today, 2,000 years later. Not much of a sacrifice, is it?
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: 2 Cor. 5
<snip bible gibberish> Who cares what your stupid magic book says about anything? Nobody here.
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: That is now your dicipling for having rejected the New Life in Jesus given to you. By that Life I would have had "worth". And you would have benefited from it. Now I am "worthless" to you. Rejected too. While I gave myself to you as your Mother. To give birth to you as our Son, Jesus. But you are worthless. To everyone including yourself.
(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Yep. I know. After you rejected Love you can not face it anymore and have to run. To hide with Adam and Eve in the "bushes".
When you realize your mistake we will be waiting because you are Forgiven. God died for your sins and we don't judge you accordingly. You are judged by your own rejection of us. And that judgment is always that you wear your underpants on your head and shove pencils up your nostrils.
Fuck of johan. Take your insanity elsewhere.
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RE: God's Love
June 21, 2020 at 12:56 pm
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This thread is hilarious, i might point Christians to this one so they can see how they sound. This is what happens when they reject El Duffo.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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