US police brutality item

[Aegon]

Odd that white people will find an example of police brutality against a white person to somehow argue against the protests against police brutality. Very logical.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Are you going to stand up and bark everytime you hear the whistle Editz?  You're right, crickets, but why do you think we're hearing about it now?

Truth be told, the recruiters who peddle this don't give a shit about the whites™ anymore than they care about black people.  They only care about a white man being murdered by cops when it helps them harm black people.  It's a standard hypocrisy narrative leaning on the usual white supremacist victim ideology. Racist redditors and content creators pushed it, and since many people were saying™, the news just haaaad to cover it.  That's the SOP, if it weren't clear to you before.

(A simple google search, btw, would have shown you that there has been interest and coverage of the incident every year since it happened, as well as it's constant use as white supremacist propaganda over the same period.)

As if, 'Looky! The cops killed a white guy, so racism doesn't exist!'

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

I doubt (or enjoy doubting) that this was Editz contention. I say this, but I've played this game many times before and it rarely ends well.

It's certainly not the contention of the white supremacists who, as Steve Bannon put it, flooded the zone with shit. They would prefer that the subject takeaway be that there very much is racism in this world, against the poor downtrodden whites. I'd screengrab the ledes from the first 10 pages of hits to drive this one home, but, honestly...it's exactly what you would expect.

I've been ringing the bells about this shit for years. It's alienated people who I liked very much, who couldn't divorce their own racial and intellectual insecurities from my comments about efforts to harm and propagandize them. I worry that they've found the winning message. Mostly, because it definitely works and spreads itself with an ease that traditional white supremacist propaganda never managed to achieve in the post civil rights era, but even more because it seems to compel people to isolate themselves whenever it's pointed out - leaving those subjects away and apart from their well intentioned and caring peers with nothing but the white supremacists to flood their brains with further shit.

Modern liberalism as a philosophy has it's defining characteristics as a concern for others and disdain for harmful social or political orders. This is precisely what white supremacists are appealing to, today. People imagine that so long as they can resist the message that whites are superior to blacks then they've won the fight, but that's not even the field of play anymore. It's that whites have it as bad or even worse than blacks...that this fictional race has become a victim of a harmful social or political order...and no one cares.

[Duty]

Odd that white people will find an example of police brutality against a white person to somehow argue against the protests against police brutality. Very logical.

The protests aren't against police brutality, they're against police brutality on BLACK PEOPLE and as such, are essentially DIVISIVE and exclusionary in nature. See my signature.

[The Grand Nudger]

To whom? I don't find myself feeling divided or excluded.

It's certainly not the case that no one piped up about the death of Timpa, or even that the black community couldn't or didn't then (and now) point to Timpa as why we should have all, always, been concerned about police brutality. They care, and cared about Timpa. The people of Dallas cared about Timpa. Timpa had a family who cared about Timpa. I care about Timpa. You care about Timpa. The people that you're posting to on these boards aren't exactly likely to exclaim "fuck that white asshole!".

There's only one group of people truly missing from the list of those which do or would or might care about Timpa, and that same group of people are the ones making so much noise about Timpa....now. That same group of people have been very successful at shifting narratives and dividing people with their messaging. It's right there in front of your face, and all you have to do is look at it. You are already staring in it's direction, obviously, but not clearly. It would take so little and mean so much to so many.

I've noticed that the frequency of these posts from you is ramping up. I'm concerned. Have you considered that you might have gone beyond the point of a consuming subject to an active disseminator?

[Rev. Rye]

The reason black lives are emphasised is that they are disproportionately the victims of police violence.

Add to it the facts of the case:

• George Floyd had a knee pressing full-force at his windpipe for 8 minutes, 46 seconds, and was unconscious for about a third of that time.
  
• The only crime Floyd was being investigated for was passing off a counterfeit $20 at a convenience store.
  
• This fatal knee choke happened in full view of a several people, at least a few filming, many pleading for the cop in question to stop, pleas which fell on deaf ears, which heavily implies he thought he could get away with this sort of shit with multiple eyewitnesses.
  
• Floyd was, in fact, black.
  

It really does paint a dark picture for darker-skinned people unless you start seeing a lot of disproportionate force of this magnitude being practiced on white people.

[The Grand Nudger]

In the end, the brutality that the police have largely aimed at disadvantaged communities and people can only be practice. They know they can get away with it. There's no significant difference between how the police view the rest of us and how they view those communities and those people, beyond that.

We shouldn't be surprised to find that their brutality expands it's horizons, nor should we be surprised when, as they expand those horizons, there is little to no outcry. We've already been conditioned to silence, it's just a matter of spreading out that blanket of hate and apathy.

They'll get to us, in earnest, soon enough - but when that victim ideology finds itself to be true..it will be too late, and it will be the proponents of it who...then... cheer it on.

[Aegon]

Odd that white people will find an example of police brutality against a white person to somehow argue against the protests against police brutality. Very logical.

The protests aren't against police brutality, they're against police brutality on BLACK PEOPLE and as such, are essentially DIVISIVE and exclusionary in nature. See my signature.

I mean, yes, they're primarily about systemic racism and law enforcement's relationship with it, but all people suffer from the way the police are structured in America...

Also actually read my post in your other thread and maybe you'll see why?

White fragility is hilarious

[Mister Agenda]

There's a particularly telling statistic: there's no significant difference between rates of illegal drug use between blacks and whites, but blacks are about 50% of the population incarcerated for drugs while only representing 12% of the general population. I wonder how they could get the impression that to the justice system, white lives matter more than theirs?

[The Grand Nudger]

I've shamed and intimidated cops out of giving me a speeding ticket while transporting substantial amounts of weed. It's not like they couldn't smell it.

Anyone who denies this inequity and privilege is missing out on lucrative opportunities for profit in the movement of illicit drugs.