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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 3:00 pm
Already tried it, he didn't seem to appreciate the effort.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 3:03 pm
(June 27, 2021 at 3:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Already tried it, he didn't seem to appreciate the effort.
Color me shocked, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 3:09 pm
Reminds me of a james veitch bit-
Quote:So I figured I had to knock it on the head. I had to take it to a ridiculous conclusion. So I concocted a plan. I said, “Solomon, I’m concerned about security. When we email each other, we need to use a code.” And he agreed. I said, “Solomon, I spent all night coming up with this code we need to use in all further correspondence: Lawyer: Gummy Bear. Bank: Cream Egg. Legal: Fizzy Cola Bottle. Claim: Peanut M&Ms. Documents: Jelly Beans. Western Union: A Giant Gummy Lizard.” I knew these were all words they use, right? I said, “Please call me Kitkat in all further correspondence.”
I didn’t hear back. I thought, I’ve gone too far. I’ve gone too far. So I had to backpedal a little. I said, “Solomon, Is the deal still on? KitKat.” Because you have to be consistent. Then I did get an email back from him. He said, “The business is on and I am trying to blah blah blah …” I said, “Dude, you have to use the code!” What followed is the greatest email I’ve ever received. I’m not joking, this is what turned up in my inbox.
This was a good day. “The business is on. I am trying to raise the balance for the Gummy Bear — so he can submit all the needed Fizzy Cola Bottle Jelly Beans to the Cream Egg, for the Peanut M&Ms process to start. Send 1,500 pounds via a Giant Gummy Lizard.”
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 4:38 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2021 at 4:39 pm by Frank Apisa.)
(June 27, 2021 at 2:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 2:43 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: It is not binary in any way.
That fallacy is the result of atheists playing games with the etymology of the word. They want to pretend that atheism is the product of "a" (without) + theism (a "belief in a god) = without a "belief" in any gods.
That is horseshit.
It cannot have derived that way, because the word "atheism" came into the English language 100 years BEFORE the word "theism."
Yeah...today atheists insist that anyone who is not a theist has to be one of them...an atheist.
I do not blame them. The agnostics are a shitload smarter and more logical. The can inflate their numbers...and get smarter more logical people by playing that game.
I say screw you people.
I am not an atheist.
Albert Einstein said that he did not "believe" that any gods exist...BUT THAT HE WAS NOT AN ATHEIST.
Neil deGrasse Tyson says that he does not "believe" that any gods exist...BUT THAT HE IS NOT AN ATHEIST.
Carl Sagan said that he did not "believe" that any gods exist...BUT THAT HE WAS NOT AN ATHEIST.
Same story for Stephen Hawking...although just after his death, there were some atheists who attempted to revise history .
All four described themselves as agnostics...and raged against anyone who claimed they were atheists.
I am no Einstein, Tyson, Sagan, or Hawking...BUT I AM ALSO NOT AN ATHEIST.
No matter how much you crave me.
I don’t believe there are no gods. I am an atheist.
The ball is in your court and you’re dropping it.
Oh, bullshit.
(June 27, 2021 at 2:47 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 1:51 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I am neither an atheist nor a theist. Anyone who thinks you must be one or the other just does not understand that it is not a binary choice.
In what way is it not a binary choice? What is a third alternative?
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 4:41 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2021 at 4:41 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(June 27, 2021 at 4:38 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 2:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t believe there are no gods. I am an atheist.
The ball is in your court and you’re dropping it.
Oh, bullshit.
You believe in a god. If you say you don’t, I call bullshit.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 4:43 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2021 at 4:44 pm by Frank Apisa.)
(June 27, 2021 at 2:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Frank Apisa ‘s primary complaint seems to be with the dictionary, not with people who don’t believe in gods and also don’t believe no gods exist. So, I’m not really sure why he’s here. I’m inclined to direct him to the editorial staff at Merriam-Webster. How about this, Frank? From now on, all people who don’t believe in gods and who don’t believe no gods exist will be called film-flams. People who don’t believe in god and also believe no gods exist will be called strong flim flams, and we can re-name the site FlimFlamForums.org. We can excise the word “atheist” right out of the English language. Would that appease you?
If you want to be known as an atheist...use the designation.
Stop trying to deem everyone who does not "believe" a god exists...an atheist.
As I mentioned earlier...Einstein, Hawking, Sagan, Tyson...all do not "believe" any gods exist...and they all said they were not atheists.
I know, I know...you people would like agnostics and other non-theists to be counted as atheists.
Tough.
We are not.
(June 27, 2021 at 4:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 4:38 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: Oh, bullshit.
You believe in a god. If you say you don’t, I call bullshit.
Aha...now I see where our major difference lies.
You apparently think I give a shit what you call "bullshit" on.
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 4:55 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2021 at 4:55 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(June 27, 2021 at 4:43 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: Okay
(June 27, 2021 at 2:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Frank Apisa ‘s primary complaint seems to be with the dictionary, not with people who don’t believe in gods and also don’t believe no gods exist. So, I’m not really sure why he’s here. I’m inclined to direct him to the editorial staff at Merriam-Webster. How about this, Frank? From now on, all people who don’t believe in gods and who don’t believe no gods exist will be called film-flams. People who don’t believe in god and also believe no gods exist will be called strong flim flams, and we can re-name the site FlimFlamForums.org. We can excise the word “atheist” right out of the English language. Would that appease you?
If you want to be known as an atheist...use the designation.
Stop trying to deem everyone who does not "believe" a god exists...an atheist.
As I mentioned earlier...Einstein, Hawking, Sagan, Tyson...all do not "believe" any gods exist...and they all said they were not atheists.
I know, I know...you people would like agnostics and other non-theists to be counted as atheists.
Tough.
We are not.
(June 27, 2021 at 4:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You believe in a god. If you say you don’t, I call bullshit.
Aha...now I see where our major difference lies.
You apparently think I give a shit what you call "bullshit" on.
Okay.
Kinda cute.
I smiled.
Your personal contention with the established definition of a particular word isn’t a problem for atheists or the atheist community. It’s mostly just a problem for you. I’m sorry for the apparent angst this is causing you, but you’re in the wrong place for help.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 4:59 pm
(June 27, 2021 at 4:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 4:43 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: Okay
If you want to be known as an atheist...use the designation.
Stop trying to deem everyone who does not "believe" a god exists...an atheist.
As I mentioned earlier...Einstein, Hawking, Sagan, Tyson...all do not "believe" any gods exist...and they all said they were not atheists.
I know, I know...you people would like agnostics and other non-theists to be counted as atheists.
Tough.
We are not.
Aha...now I see where our major difference lies.
You apparently think I give a shit what you call "bullshit" on.
Okay.
Kinda cute.
I smiled.
Your personal contention with the established definition of a particular word isn’t a problem for atheists or the atheist community. It’s mostly just a problem for you. I’m sorry for the apparent angst this is causing you, but you’re in the wrong place for help.
RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 27, 2021 at 5:06 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2021 at 5:06 pm by arewethereyet.)
(June 27, 2021 at 4:59 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote:
(June 27, 2021 at 4:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Your personal contention with the established definition of a particular word isn’t a problem for atheists or the atheist community. It’s mostly just a problem for you. I’m sorry for the apparent angst this is causing you, but you’re in the wrong place for help.
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