Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?

[John 6IX Breezy]

Only….applied…to Israelites. 

Go study the subject then get back to me.

[Angrboda]

Only….applied…to Israelites. 

Go study the subject then get back to me.

No, if you disagree, provide evidence for your position. Don't be a fucking condescending ass.

[The Grand Nudger]

Clearly, I have…and none of this takes years of rigorous work. It’s not a riddle wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in a mystery. Magic book expresses the opinions of slavery of a culture that was engaged in slavery. They are predictable opinions for a slaving culture.

American slavers also didn’t believe that it would be proper to enslave them. It’s a common feature of such cultures. An organizing principle of their societies.

Today, we recognize that it was and is wrong, the abrahamic god, then and now….not so much.

-to hear the fairy tale told, at any rate.

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I like to find the humor everywhere- here…it’s the seeming inability for Christians…..to suggest that the Jews may have gotten anything wrong about a god.

Isn’t that kind of your entire thing?

[Huggy Bear]

Genesis 29
18 And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter.
19 And Laban said, It is better that I give her to thee, than that I should give her to another man: abide with me.
20 And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her.

If indentured servitude was so disgusting or inhumane, why would anyone volunteer to do it?

Y'all are straight clowns.

[emphasis mine]

The exception proves the rule.  The fact that he has to mention that his servitude was easily endured implies that typically servitude is something that is hard to endure.

*emphasis mine*

No it doesen't Eliezer was the servant of Abraham, yet at the same time since Abraham had no children he was also Abraham's heir. Also when Abrahams nephew was kidnapped by an army, Abraham and his SERVANTS took up arms to go rescue him, why would all these ARMED servants risk their lives for someone that's mistreating them, and not just free themselves instead?

[John 6IX Breezy]

No, if you disagree, provide evidence for your position.

Here's a list of major commentaries on the verse in question.

[The Grand Nudger]

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/view...diaantiqua

Enjoy. I have absolutely no questions for you on the institution of slavery described in magic book, and there’s no debate whatsoever on the reality of those institutions in the culture which produced it.

We know they endorsed their own institutions. Do you, today…and do you feel compelled in any way to defend that institution as anything other than what it was?

[Angrboda]

[emphasis mine]

The exception proves the rule.  The fact that he has to mention that his servitude was easily endured implies that typically servitude is something that is hard to endure.

*emphasis mine*

No it doesen't Eliezer was the servant of Abraham, yet at the same time since Abraham had no children he was also Abraham's heir. Also when Abrahams nephew was kidnapped by an army, Abraham and his SERVANTS took up arms to go rescue him, why would all these ARMED servants risk their lives for someone that's mistreating them, and not just free themselves instead?

For this to show what you think it shows, two things need to be true. First, that a slave would never do anything that is not in his best interest, which is an unsound premise, and that Abraham's relationship with his slaves was typical for slave masters and slaves, which you don't know to be true. I don't know why Abraham's servants did what they did, and neither do you. But ultimately it doesn't matter as it's not the evidence that you think it is.

[Huggy Bear]

*emphasis mine*

No it doesen't Eliezer was the servant of Abraham, yet at the same time since Abraham had no children he was also Abraham's heir. Also when Abrahams nephew was kidnapped by an army, Abraham and his SERVANTS took up arms to go rescue him, why would all these ARMED servants risk their lives for someone that's mistreating them, and not just free themselves instead?

For this to show what you think it shows, two things need to be true.  First, that a slave would never do anything that is not in his best interest, which is an unsound premise, and that Abraham's relationship with his slaves was typical for slave masters and slaves, which you don't know to be true.  I don't know why Abraham's servants did what they did, and neither do you.  But ultimately it doesn't matter as it's not the evidence that you think it is.

So my examples do nothing to disprove your baseless assumptions?

[The Grand Nudger]

Perhaps you should take a gander at that link. It spends some time on why people would enter into these arrangements.

Or, as I suggested before, you might avail yourself of the vast body of literature and contemporary testimony as to why people still do.

Are you, personally, willing to advocate for biblical slavery? Do you think it was a good system, decreed by a god, your god?

[Angrboda]

For this to show what you think it shows, two things need to be true.  First, that a slave would never do anything that is not in his best interest, which is an unsound premise, and that Abraham's relationship with his slaves was typical for slave masters and slaves, which you don't know to be true.  I don't know why Abraham's servants did what they did, and neither do you.  But ultimately it doesn't matter as it's not the evidence that you think it is.

So my examples do nothing to disprove your baseless assumptions?

It wasn't baseless. You provided a basis. If being a slave was a nothing burger, then the story you cite doesn't make sense. Even if my comments had been baseless, your argument is still a nonsequitur.

Additionally, there is plenty of extra-biblical evidence about slavery in ANE.

But thanks for showing what a towering intellect you are once again.