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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 4:38 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 3:55 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
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Will you fucking cut it with your "they do it too" crap.
If you would fucking study more human history than your own part of the world, you would know that religiously based sexual oppression IS WORLDWIDE!
In both India and China it is still unfortunately tolerated that if a female girl or women is assaulted, more often then not, the female is blamed.
But how the fuck does that excuse what the Taliban wants for females?
Saudi Arabia still has men fighting against the recent laws that now women to drive in that Country. I am 54 and not once in my life did I ever think any religion had any right to tell a female what she could or could not do.
Even to a smaller degree, America has conservative Jews, Conservative Muslims and Conservative Christians that also believe that females have a role different than me, and many sects still think the male is the head of the household.
But even between China and India and even America, the Taliban is still billions of years behind the rest of the world as far as it's treatment of women.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 6:57 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 4:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 3:55 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
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Will you fucking cut it with your "they do it too" crap.
If you would fucking study more human history than your own part of the world, you would know that religiously based sexual oppression IS WORLDWIDE!
In both India and China it is still unfortunately tolerated that if a female girl or women is assaulted, more often then not, the female is blamed.
But how the fuck does that excuse what the Taliban wants for females?
Saudi Arabia still has men fighting against the recent laws that now women to drive in that Country. I am 54 and not once in my life did I ever think any religion had any right to tell a female what she could or could not do.
Even to a smaller degree, America has conservative Jews, Conservative Muslims and Conservative Christians that also believe that females have a role different than me, and many sects still think the male is the head of the household.
But even between China and India and even America, the Taliban is still billions of years behind the rest of the world as far as it's treatment of women.
^
What Mushaal said and I quoted.
And I still see the Sauds as your state's allies.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 7:25 pm
Quote:^
What Mushaal said and I quoted.
And I still see the Sauds as your state's allies.
As if there is a difference between how Sauds treat women and your beloved Taliban, And we at least condemn both and have worked to fix the issue where possible.
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 8:42 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 7:25 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:^
What Mushaal said and I quoted.
And I still see the Sauds as your state's allies.
As if there is a difference between how Sauds treat women and your beloved Taliban, And we at least condemn both and have worked to fix the issue where possible.
The Taliban are not my "beloved"; they are people with iron will that vanquished both the USSR and the U.S, 2 empires that invaded foreign lands and caused miseries beyond count. I feel happy for seeing the nose of invading forces broken by weak, innocent people. It's a huge plus that they carry the flag of Islamic thought too. My "cheers" for them are limited to these conditions only; once they break them they will become my new enemy.
Remember: the U.S itself have my cheers when it broke the nose of the invading British empire; the French have my cheers when they revolted against the royals, Che Guevara have my cheers for joining the revolt against Fulgencio Batista.
So that's that.
Or, let me quote a Quranic verse that explains my behavior:
Quote:Sura 7, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 33 ) Say, "My Lord has only forbidden immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed - and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know."
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 10:23 pm
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Quote:The Taliban are not my "beloved"; they are people with iron will that vanquished both the USSR and the U.S, 2 empires that invaded foreign lands and caused miseries beyond count.
They are a group of cowardly thugs who terrorized, murdered, and brutally oppressed innocent people and who most of the people they ruled despised
Quote: I feel happy for seeing the nose of invading forces broken by weak, innocent people.
Then you are a monster who supports the brutalities and inhumanities of that regime. The Taliban are weak but they most certainly aren't innocent in the slightest. You are utterly delusional
Quote: It's a huge plus that they carry the flag of Islamic thought too.
So Islamic thought is blowing up schools and throwing acid in young girls' faces. Says all that needs to be said about Islam then
Quote: My "cheers" for them are limited to these conditions only; once they break them they will become my new enemy.
Then your conditions are abhorrent
Quote:Remember: the U.S itself have my cheers when it broke the nose of the invading British empire; the French have my cheers when they revolted against the royals, Che Guevara have my cheers for joining the revolt against Fulgencio Batista.
None of those groups are remotely like the Taliban
Quote:So that's that.
Or, let me quote a Quranic verse that explains my behavior:
Your is a lover of cowardly ghouls and nothing else
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 11:04 pm
My newness here leaves me unfamiliar on the subject, but how many pages of "Oh yeah, well here's how awful you are..." ripostes can a thread run before it's killed?
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 16, 2021 at 11:17 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 11:04 pm)DocIllinois Wrote: My newness here leaves me unfamiliar on the subject, but how many pages of "Oh yeah, well here's how awful you are..." ripostes can a thread run before it's killed?
Yeah, one really has to wonder how much an actual Taliban who is trying to recruit people to his cause can contribute to any sane conversation.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 17, 2021 at 12:05 am
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What gave you the impression that the people in afghanistan were weak or innocent, Winter? They're the engineers of their own misfortune, and they put in the work.
People get this amusing idea that the region is screwed up because of western (or even soviet) influence and tinkering - but it isn't. It's screwed in spite of it.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 17, 2021 at 12:52 am
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 17, 2021 at 4:33 am
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(August 15, 2021 at 3:33 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Quote:Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, One of the Co-founders of Taliban, Likely to be Afghanistan’s New President
https://www.news18.com/news/world/mullah...89671.html
Quote:Taliban’s Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar is likely to be declared as the Afghanistan’s new President, sources told CNN-News18.
Baradar is one of the co-founders of the Taliban, who now heads the political office of the insurgent group and is part of the negotiating team that the group has in Doha to try and thrash out a political deal that could pave the way for a ceasefire and more lasting peace in Afghanistan.
What about the Islamophobes that gave us a headache and butchered Millions of Muslims; claiming that the Taliban are terrorists?
What about "the war on terror "?
Oh..right..it was a mere "Crusade":
Looks like reading history is not a feature of the U.S government. I mean most crusades were...defeated !
Why are you so angry? One of your intellectual, spiritual and moral brothers is now on the Afghan throne. You should be delighted.
(August 15, 2021 at 6:26 pm)Spongebob Wrote: Oppression of women will return. No education for girls. Women will have to wear the potato sack and be sold off for breeding. Men caught with the wrong beard length will be stoned. Child mortality will skyrocket. All of this a lot more horror will return. Production of opium will surge. These things are a matter of record, not myth. Afghanistan actually had a real culture before the Soviet Union invaded. I think we should have just let them have it.
The CIA invaded before the USSR did. There was a slight problem in that every time there was a free and fair election in the country, Afghans kept electing a coalition of socialists and communists (as tends to happen in muslim countries where freedom and education take root). The CIA created the forerunners to al-qaeda and the taliban, trained their fighters (it was easy, the manuals for the Chilean torture machine were still lying around) shovelled money and guns into their fists and let them loose.
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