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THE Gun Thread
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(May 29, 2022 at 6:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 5:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The article didn't say she had no training, it said she had no law enforcement background. Stop assuming.

Interesting bit from the article:


Boru
I assumed nothing of the sort.

Savvy sarcasm???

Mind you don’t get your trousers caught in the bike chain, what with all that back-pedaling.

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(May 29, 2022 at 6:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 6:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I assumed nothing of the sort.

Savvy sarcasm???

Mind you don’t get your trousers caught in the bike chain, what with all that back-pedaling.

Boru

I tell you it' s dripping sarcasm and you think I am serious.


No winning with you mate....
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(May 29, 2022 at 6:46 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 6:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Mind you don’t get your trousers caught in the bike chain, what with all that back-pedaling.

Boru

I tell you it' s dripping sarcasm and you think I am serious.


No winning with you mate....

I accept your capitulation.

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I'll bet you find "participation trophies" meaningful.....
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(May 28, 2022 at 5:31 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 9:25 am)Nomad Wrote: Being part of a well regulated* militia where you have to qualify and then complete certain trining before gaining access to guns could be one, and bonus, it's constitutional unlike current gun laws.

* I.e. state controlled at either federal or state level.

But hey, we all know that nothing meaningful is going to happen unless and until one of Ted Cruz's children get caught in one of these situations.  Republitraitors never do anything for their country unless it benefits them personally and more.

For the record, at this point, in American law, the "Militia" is divided into two parts: The Organized Militia and the unorganized militia. The unorganized militia consists of every able-bodied male citizen of the US between 17 and 44 (this definition may be broader in certain states), and as far as I've been able to tell (rather frustratingly, the federal laws say NOTHING about the duties of the unorganized militia), from the state laws I was able to find, it seems their duties seem to consist mostly of waiting to get drafted, mostly in anticipation of foreign invasions (note: the closest we've come to a foreign invasion in my lifetime is when Al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center in 1993 and 2001 and before that, we'd have to go back to Pearl Harbor, the Aleutian Islands campaign, some isolated Japanese torpedo attacks and air raids, and a handful of Nazi espionage and sabotage campaigns in World War II.) What's worth noting is that on the off chance that the unorganized militia is called into service, in what would be the first military draft since 1973, as far as I can tell, the military does not allow you to bring your own personal gun into combat. the closest I’ve been able to find in living memory was Patton’s pearl-handled revolver in WW2, but he didn’t get the opportunity to fire it.

The organized militia is just The National Guard and the Naval Militia.

An unorganised militia is by its definition not well regulated. What you've got there is what everybody else calls "those fit enough to be called up".
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(May 29, 2022 at 9:50 am)Nomad Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 5:31 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: For the record, at this point, in American law, the "Militia" is divided into two parts: The Organized Militia and the unorganized militia. The unorganized militia consists of every able-bodied male citizen of the US between 17 and 44 (this definition may be broader in certain states), and as far as I've been able to tell (rather frustratingly, the federal laws say NOTHING about the duties of the unorganized militia), from the state laws I was able to find, it seems their duties seem to consist mostly of waiting to get drafted, mostly in anticipation of foreign invasions (note: the closest we've come to a foreign invasion in my lifetime is when Al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center in 1993 and 2001 and before that, we'd have to go back to Pearl Harbor, the Aleutian Islands campaign, some isolated Japanese torpedo attacks and air raids, and a handful of Nazi espionage and sabotage campaigns in World War II.) What's worth noting is that on the off chance that the unorganized militia is called into service, in what would be the first military draft since 1973, as far as I can tell, the military does not allow you to bring your own personal gun into combat. the closest I’ve been able to find in living memory was Patton’s pearl-handled revolver in WW2, but he didn’t get the opportunity to fire it.

The organized militia is just The National Guard and the Naval Militia.

An unorganised militia is by its definition not well regulated.  What you've got there is what everybody else calls "those fit enough to be called up".
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(May 28, 2022 at 10:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 9:25 am)Nomad Wrote: Being part of a well regulated* militia where you have to qualify and then complete certain trining before gaining access to guns could be one, and bonus, it's constitutional unlike current gun laws.

* I.e. state controlled at either federal or state level.

But hey, we all know that nothing meaningful is going to happen unless and until one of Ted Cruz's children get caught in one of these situations.  Republitraitors never do anything for their country unless it benefits them personally and more.

They have mass shootings in Cancun?

In Havana neither if Herr Oberststurmbanngroppenfuhrer Trump is to be believed.
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(May 29, 2022 at 2:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 5:08 pm)Cecelia Wrote: To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson: The earth belongs to the living, not the dead. The second amendment is outdated by a couple hundred years. Governments must adapt to the times, and it's rather clear that we need to adapt to the times instead of continuing to live in the past. The founding father's won't care. They can't. They're all six feet under, and will be invariably unavailable for comment.

I am wondering why some people treat the(ir) constitution like christians treat the bible: Inerrant and never changing.

Its not as if the founding fathers (of any constitution) were superhumans. We do actually know that in case of the US they were racist, didnt have any problems with having slaves. In fact, some of them even had a "sexual relationship" (if that is even possible) with their female slaves. Women were notintended to be able to vote, or open a bank account (without hubbys permission) until ca. 1970 (iirc). We now know that slavery is wrong, we now know that women should be able to vote. Why should we stick to "everyone should have basically unlimited access to guns"?

Has anyone ever considered that the founding fathers were plain and simply .... sit down now.....wrong?

You forgot the third way christians treat their bible, ignoring the bits they don't like, for example the massive chunk of it that is little more than a hymn to communism.
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That’s exactly how nuts treat the constitution…those few that have read any of it, ofc, despite it being a short document.
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