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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 17, 2022 at 1:31 pm
I am going to resort to contrived measures to keep my threads alive and continue this interesting discussion, as some insecure bastards in the staff really decided to ban me merely because I was having fun with some stupid admin tag.
To all the ban hammers, prepare to be trolled very hard with sock accounts, as -unfortunately for you- I happen to have some free time this week. You're going to be punished severely for trying to silence people who don't agree with your worldview.
(November 16, 2022 at 10:06 am)polymath257 Wrote: If you had the correct equipment to detect an electron reliably and did not detect one, THEN you could reason that there is no electron.
Again, not really. There are other possibilities like not correctly using the equipment, or unknowingly using damaged equipment, etc. So you need a lot more to prove non-existence. Generally speaking, it's not possible to prove negative assertions.
(November 16, 2022 at 10:06 am)polymath257 Wrote: The plausible reasons for unicorns would all be based on some observations and the actual existence would not be demonstrated until the unicorns themselves were detected.
We don't necessarily need to observe things or detect them to prove they exist, you can have a purely deductive proof for the existence of something.
For example : the tallest tree in the world necessarily exists. Even if you never saw it nor knew anything about it, you're absolutely certain that it's real. The set of all trees out there is obviously finite, and since it's easy to make a one-to-one correspondance between each tree and the set of natural numbers, the set of all trees necessarily has a maximal element.
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 17, 2022 at 2:19 pm
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(November 17, 2022 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru99 Wrote: To all the ban hammers, prepare to be trolled very hard with sock accounts, as -unfortunately for you- I happen to have some free time this week. You're going to be punished severely for trying to silence people who don't agree with your worldview.
So you are having a psychotic breakdown. Religion didn't save you as you claimed in the 1st post.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 17, 2022 at 2:24 pm
(November 17, 2022 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru99 Wrote: Generally speaking, it's not possible to prove negative assertions.
Oh yeah? Then prove it.
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 17, 2022 at 11:14 pm
Wow, he has free time and chooses to waste it trolling and internet forums with sock accounts
That's just sad ....... 
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 17, 2022 at 11:16 pm
And if Klora Bora Bing Bong thinks sock accounts are a punishment around here. He doesn't know this place very well. We get hit by those every freaking day. What the hell makes him think he's anything special..... 
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 18, 2022 at 1:13 am
God.......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 18, 2022 at 1:47 am
(November 17, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Helios Wrote: Wow, he has free time and chooses to waste it trolling and internet forums with sock accounts
That's just sad .......
This is why religious faith should be regarded as a form of mental illness.
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 18, 2022 at 2:08 am
The -only- difference between beliefs like his and a disorder, is what would be expected of him given his peer set. Fun fact.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 18, 2022 at 3:17 am
I suggest locking the thread and depriving him of what he wants.
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RE: Even if theism is a failure, it's still superior to atheism
November 18, 2022 at 3:37 am
I concur 
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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