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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 5:58 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 5:51 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Why can’t a journalist authoritatively criticize religion? Because he doesn't specialize in religions.
(July 8, 2023 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Since theology is a subject with no content False. Theology is full of content even if you don't agree with all of it or some of it.
(July 8, 2023 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: it seems as though anyone is qualified to criticize religion.
That's wrong.
1. Give all his debates, books, articles, and speeches on the subject, I think it’s fair to say that religion was a speciality of his.
2. Theology means ‘god talk’. Since gods don’t exist, theology is just so much empty air.
3. Why?
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:03 pm
Criticism of religion can lead to critical thinking, and we can't have that.
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:05 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 5:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Give all his debates, books, articles, and speeches on the subject, I think it’s fair to say that religion was a speciality of his.
2. Theology means ‘god talk’. Since gods don’t exist, theology is just so much empty air.
3. Why?
Boru
1. He doesn't have a degree in theology or any religion-related field which is dubious, that's it we can dismiss his works on religion. If I tell you I had a lot of debates, books, articles about neuroscience and the brain (as a neuroscience enthusiast for example), but never went to medical school, would you allow me to perform a surgery on your brain or you child's brain ?
2. How do you know god doesn't exist
3. Not all people are qualified to criticize religion, this is obvious. You'll probably agree that not all people are qualified to criticize atheism, as some people get the meaning of atheism wrong. It's the same thing with any religion, people get it wrong
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:09 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 6:05 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 5:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Give all his debates, books, articles, and speeches on the subject, I think it’s fair to say that religion was a speciality of his.
2. Theology means ‘god talk’. Since gods don’t exist, theology is just so much empty air.
3. Why?
Boru
1. He doesn't have a degree in theology or any religion-related field which is dubious, that's it we can dismiss his works on religion. If I tell you I had a lot of debates, books, articles about neuroscience and the brain (as a neuroscience enthusiast for example), but never went to medical school, would you allow me to perform a surgery on your brain or you child's brain ?
2. How do you know god doesn't exist
3. Not all people are qualified to criticize religion, this is obvious. You'll probably agree that not all people are qualified to criticize atheism, as some people get the meaning of atheism wrong. It's the same thing with any religion, people get it wrong
1. That’s an idiotic comparison (about what I expected).
2. The same way you ‘know’ that he does.
3. Of COURSE everyone is qualified to criticize atheism. Where do you get the nutty notions?
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:09 pm
Easy, you nuts keep telling us your great fairies did shit that never happened.
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:11 pm
Religion is a fairy tale.
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:16 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 6:05 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: 1. He doesn't have a degree in theology or any religion-related field which is dubious, that's it we can dismiss his works on religion. If I tell you I had a lot of debates, books, articles about neuroscience and the brain (as a neuroscience enthusiast for example), but never went to medical school, would you allow me to perform a surgery on your brain or you child's brain ?
2. How do you know god doesn't exist
3. Not all people are qualified to criticize religion, this is obvious. You'll probably agree that not all people are qualified to criticize atheism, as some people get the meaning of atheism wrong. It's the same thing with any religion, people get it wrong
1. That’s an idiotic comparison (about what I expected).
2. The same way you ‘know’ that he does.
3. Of COURSE everyone is qualified to criticize atheism. Where do you get the nutty notions?
Boru
1. Answer my question and don't run away. Would you let me fiddle with your brain without having any degree in medicine or neuroscience ? Is it enough for me to have debates about the brain to start fiddling with people's skulls ?
2. Again, answer my question and stop running away
3. No, some people think atheism = No God 100%, but this is not what atheism means generally. These people aren't qualified to criticize atheism.
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:16 pm
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(July 8, 2023 at 6:05 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 5:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Give all his debates, books, articles, and speeches on the subject, I think it’s fair to say that religion was a speciality of his.
2. Theology means ‘god talk’. Since gods don’t exist, theology is just so much empty air.
3. Why?
Boru
2. How do you know god doesn't exist What we observe is exactly what one would expect to observe if there were no god.
There may be one, but it's totally irrelevant.
There is not one example of it's intervention.
When and if it ever saves some children from a suicide bomber, maybe it might cause a re-look. No one will hold their breath.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:22 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 6:16 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: What we observe is exactly what one would expect to observe if there were no god.
I think ntelligent life isn't expected if there were no god
(July 8, 2023 at 6:16 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: There is not one example of it's intervention.
When and if it ever saves some children from a suicide bomber, maybe it might cause a re-look. No one will hold their breath.
This life isn't the whole story and God knows this. Everyone will get what they deserve in end times
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RE: Dr. Bill Craig's Debates: Why do Atheists lose/run away from debating him?
July 8, 2023 at 6:35 pm
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(July 8, 2023 at 5:38 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 5:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'll wager Hitchens knew more about Islam than you know about Hitchens. For example, you should know enough about him to refer to him in the past tense.
Boru
Yeah I know he's dead a long time ago if that's what you mean.
No matter what Hitchens knew about Islam, he's not or wasn't a philosopher of religions, that's it. A journalist can't authoritatively criticize religions. Just because he's famous on Youtube doesn't means his words are timeless wisdom.
And remember that he identifies himself as an anti theist, which means he's always going to be biased against religions.
So we should only listen to people with professional credentials? Well, that rules out Mohammed. Checkmate!
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