Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Women having the right to not be forced to remain pregnant is not genocide. No being has the right to inhabit the body of any other being against their will and the women is perfectly justified in removing it from her body this even if this results in death.

[Bucky Ball]

2 billion deaths. OMG. So much for any moral argument. LOL

In #1, the (ignorant) premises are false, the conclusion is of course, totally false.
What we have here is the usual dishonest bullshit of the dishonest religionists who want to impose their ignorance on others.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article...%20vessels.

Cardiac tissue twitches secondary to electrical impulses. Twitching is not independent pumping. See link above. Twitching is not "beating".
The development of the structures which will eventually become a functioning, pumping heart takes a long time, well beyond the First Trimester,
and constantly change in the pregnancy before it's matured into a mature cardiac system, capable of supporting the fetus which actually does not really function as a human heart
until the umbilical circulation is detached at birth. The "pumping heart" issue is a lie, and total falsehood as religionist attempt to foist their own personal
ignorance of Embryology onto others they just hope are as ignorant as they are.
Anyone who has taken grade school beginning biology knows this. A fair number of hearts form with congenital anomalies and require surgery, emergently or somewhat soon after birth,
so their Intelligent Designer needs to get His ass back to design school.

A fetus is not a "baby". A baby is a developed fetus which has been born.
Religionists and others use the "baby" word in an attempt to introduce emotional language to prematurely preempt the discussion.
Who would want to harm a baby ?
A fetus is a potential baby, not an actual baby.
Apparently Aquinas' discussions about potentiality and actuality did not sink in here. It does not, early in the pregnancy even have a neural tube, from which the brain develops.
Religionists use this sort of ignorant dishonest emotional language in an attempt to falsely stake out the moral high-ground.  

We here are not as stupid as this simplistic ignorance. He'll have to do better than this.

BTW, at least 50 % of all human pregnancies spontaneously abort. The "designer" did a horseshit job.
According to religionists, the gods are responsible for world events.
His gods have FAR FAR more than 2 billion on their hands.
Therefore gods set up this system, and are the most prolific abortionists in world history, and continue to practice abortion every day in their carefully intelligently designed (inefficient/imperfect) system the wonderful likes of which shine to the world as an example of His Goodness and Perfection. Amen.
I can make that into a syllogism ... with 2 premises and a conclusion which they must agree with, if they are actually Catholic believers.

Are these multiple threads not spamming this forum ?

This is now closed for editing, and the statement saying 50 % of pregnancies spontaneously abort is not the case. 
It's in the 40s %. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5741961/

"Miscarriages are common among parous women; 43% of parous women report having experienced one or more first trimester spontaneous miscarriages, rising to 81% among women with 11 or more living children. One in every 17 parous women have three or more miscarriages. Depending on her health, nutrition and lifestyle choices, even a 39 year old parous woman with a history of 3 or more miscarriages has a good chance of carrying a future pregnancy to term but she should act expediently."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@Nishant Xavier

@ Brian, and also that guy with the Gandalf pic: I would prefer to keep such things confidential, but since you asked, I will tell you. I donate roughly 20% of my income - more than Christianity requires, btw - to Churches and Charities among which are also various Orphanages and Trusts that help abandoned or orphaned children. Now, maybe you should tell me how much you donate, since you put me on the spot.

I’m happy to hear about your donations, but that’s not what I asked you. How many unwanted children have you adopted?

I did not ‘put you on the spot’ - I didn’t ask how much and to which causes you donate, so I feel under no obligation to tell you how much I donate (I will say, however, that it’s substantial and that we’ve even been known to donate to churches from time to time).

Boru

[no one]

Comprehension is not a skill nishy possesses.

[Bucky Ball]

@ Brian, and also that guy with the Gandalf pic: I would prefer to keep such things confidential, but since you asked, I will tell you. I donate roughly 20% of my income - more than Christianity requires, btw - to Churches and Charities among which are also various Orphanages and Trusts that help abandoned or orphaned children. Now, maybe you should tell me how much you donate, since you put me on the spot.

Luke 18:10-14

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about [1] himself: `God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector.12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, `God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

[Bucky Ball]

And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

Amen, amen.

Yes, the Bible approves of abortion. 
Thanks for posting this. I think it's from Numbers (the OT).

It's very interesting for a "number" (snort) of reasons. 

1. As you imply the Bible approves of abortion here. The husband who suspects his wife of infidelity takes her to the priests, (of course pays the priests) and they do a curse, and write it out, with ink that then flows into a liquid which she ingests, which may cause an abortion. I suspect they used different ink depending on what the priests and her husband wanted to happen. 

2. The language is what's interesting. As with the story of Jacob's "generative wound" (received when wrestling with the angel) the editors culturally would not actually say the words meaning "genitals" or "womb". "Thigh" is used in place of genitals, and "belly" in place of "womb".  The woman agrees with the curse, and either she or the priests sign it (most likely with a sort of poison ink that is known to be toxic. If she aborts, she is then known to be guilty. So a "possible" infidelity resulting in a pregnancy, is dealt with by abortion. It appears the poison has some long lasting, permanent effects.

[h4ym4n]

Luke 18:10-14

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about [1] himself: `God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector.12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, `God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

If he was by himself then how did anyone know what he said to write it down?

[brewer]

This is what god commanded according to your fairy tale. 

I think I've told you this before, and have several here, not all products of conception result in viable life.

[The Grand Nudger]

Amen, amen.

Yes, the Bible approves of abortion. 
Thanks for posting this. I think it's from Numbers (the OT).

It's very interesting for a "number" (snort) of reasons. 

1. As you imply the Bible approves of abortion here. The husband who suspects his wife of infidelity takes her to the priests, (of course pays the priests) and they do a curse, and write it out, with ink that then flows into a liquid which she ingests, which may cause an abortion. I suspect they used different ink depending on what the priests and her husband wanted to happen. 

2. The language is what's interesting. As with the story of Jacob's "generative wound" (received when wrestling with the angel) the editors culturally would not actually say the words meaning "genitals" or "womb". "Thigh" is used in place of genitals, and "belly" in place of "womb".  The woman agrees with the curse, and either she or the priests sign it (most likely with a sort of poison ink that is known to be toxic. If she aborts, she is then known to be guilty. So a "possible" infidelity resulting in a pregnancy, is dealt with by abortion. It appears the poison has some long lasting, permanent effects.

God's fuckin spoken, right?  It may be that a bunch of christians today have decided to abandon magic book for an entirely political religion - but as far as abortion is concerned, god's fine with it - and it's very important to know that no matter how it pans out..the jealous man is entirely blameless. Like Lot when he got drunk and fucked his daughters.

Personally, I think it's garbage. If I thought my wife was cheating on me I wouldn't take her to a witch to get an abortion to find out. Best case scenario, you just ruined your relationship - worst case scenario, you killed your own kid with her trying to prove her fidelity.

OFC, as you say, it may just have been a clever way to dispose of used wives - which god would then, also..apparently...be fine with.

[no one]

You atheists just don't understand.
When the scripture aligns with my vision, it is divine, and should be taken literally.
When the scripture slants from my perfect vision, then it is metaphorical.