[split] Are Questions About God Important?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yeah was the torturing and killing really necessary? What the fuck

Not only was it not necessary, it didn't happen.

[The Grand Nudger]

Could jesus have passed quietly in his sleep of old age for our sins?

Nope, wouldn't have had the same impact. But why would anyone need to "die for our sins" in the first place, like how does this even actually work.

Seems like the same question to me.  Could it have worked that way, or is there something specific to the manner of his death that makes it effective.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Thumps:
Right, but I won't allow them to frame my thinking.



That's the key word there Mr. Alumpacus, thinking, something those warriors for jebus are incapable of.

Well, that's a good reason to not allow them to frame my thinking. I don't give a shit why they think what they do when it is so faulty. It follows that I don't care about "mysterious ways" stuff, or any other apologetics. So no, not so "easy".

Your sarcasm is needless, imo. It's not something I've never heard, thanks all the same.

[brewer]

From what/how I understand, it seems that an honest believer would abhor what the catholics/catholic church has done to christianity.

But the above statement could probably be applied to all organized religions in some fashion.

[Thumpalumpacus]

From what/how I understand, it seems that an honest believer would abhor what the catholics/catholic church has done to christianity.

But the above statement could probably be applied to all organized religions in some fashion.

Between groupthink and blind faith, kids are on the back end of concerns, seems to me.

[possibletarian]

We basically have two answers here:

Question - what makes a thing important?

People who don’t believe in god
- because we say it is. Or, a group of us say it is

People who do believe in god
- because something higher made it so.

How do you know it's from 'higher up' can you prove a god? See how important proving a god is now?

I don't seem to have the mental dilemma you seem to have, let's look at it another way perhaps. What is morality?

[Ahriman]

From what/how I understand, it seems that an honest believer would abhor what the catholics/catholic church has done to christianity.

But the above statement could probably be applied to all organized religions in some fashion.

Catholics didn't do anything to Christianity. Christians did a fine job ruining their own religion themselves. Catholicism really has nothing to do with Christianity at all.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

From what/how I understand, it seems that an honest believer would abhor what the catholics/catholic church has done to christianity.

But the above statement could probably be applied to all organized religions in some fashion.

Between groupthink and blind faith, kids are on the back end of concerns, seems to me.

Religious parents are seldom interested in taking care of their kids' behavior, or wildly controlling, no middle ground if true believers are involved. My cousins tend to go with "they'll figure it out eventually." Eventually often means a 18 year old who quits the 7th grade in disgust and goes to work in the family meth lab.

[Belacqua]

Holland’s point is that a rigorous review of Roman and Greek cultures makes it clear that most people would find their mores to be alien.

Tom Holland's podcast has been awarded the British Academy's President's Medal. It's the first time a podcast or any kind of broadcast program has won the award. 

https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/news...ies-prize/

[FrustratedFool]

Again, there's no ethical discussion which can't be resolved (and which ultimately boils down to) by appeal to my personal interest

Kudos for being honest about the implications of your worldview.

“Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself.”  ― Jean-Paul Sartre

Thanks.