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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
July 13, 2024 at 11:59 am
(July 8, 2024 at 5:53 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Speaking of October Surprises, am I being way too paranoid if I suspect Putin might withdraw from Ukraine and give Trump credit for persuading him to try to throw the presidential election to Trump? He can always go right back in after the election.
That would be great, honestly. They should try that.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 21, 2024 at 9:02 am
Kamala Harris seems to be doing very well for now. The DNC seems to have been a success with major figures like the Clintons and the Obamas backing up the current Vice President. (teu teu teu in German  )
I believe that the problem with Donald Trump has nothing to do with the ideology of the Republican Party in general. Here are some comments made by Queen Elizabeth on Donald Trump:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/quee...38268.html
She said that Donald Trump was a “rude person who was always looking over her shoulder to other persons in the room”.
In one of the latest books that I have read it says that this is a common trait of Narcissists or people with antagonistic personality disorder.
People with NPD are usually very kind to people around them until they receive some sort of approval. Once that person is “in their pocket”, they start looking over people shoulders for other sources of validation. It’s a completely subconscious process. And yes, they really don’t care about anyone once they have obtained whatever it is they want from that person.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 21, 2024 at 9:25 am
Michelle Obama is fierce! Love her.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 21, 2024 at 12:36 pm
(August 21, 2024 at 9:25 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Michelle Obama is fierce! Love her.
‘Who wants to tell him’ line was brilliant.
Even after all this time, the Obamas are still rock stars.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 21, 2024 at 2:31 pm
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 22, 2024 at 10:04 pm
(August 21, 2024 at 9:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: I believe that the problem with Donald Trump has nothing to do with the ideology of the Republican Party in general.
Then you're not paying any fucking attention at all.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 22, 2024 at 10:37 pm
(August 22, 2024 at 10:04 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 21, 2024 at 9:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: I believe that the problem with Donald Trump has nothing to do with the ideology of the Republican Party in general.
Then you're not paying any fucking attention at all.
I think @ Leonardo17 is actually right, insofar as the Republicans have any ideology at all. The Republicans who really believe their ideology -- Kinzinger, Cheney, Romney, and so on -- have already walked out. Not that that's a good thing, they should have stayed and fought for the soul of the party, but the ragged remainders don't give a shit about ideology at all, they just want to hitch their trailer to the Trump oxen and hope to make out.
The remainders have no ideology. They're sucking the cultish dick, the JD Vances of the world. The ideologues are bailing out. That's good for 2024. We'll see how deep that "conviction" is.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 22, 2024 at 10:54 pm
(August 22, 2024 at 10:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 22, 2024 at 10:04 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Then you're not paying any fucking attention at all.
I think @Leonardo17 is actually right, insofar as the Republicans have any ideology at all. The Republicans who really believe their ideology -- Kinzinger, Cheney, Romney, and so on -- have already walked out. Not that that's a good thing, they should have stayed and fought for the soul of the party, but the ragged remainders don't give a shit about ideology at all, they just want to hitch their trailer to the Trump oxen and hope to make out.
The remainders have no ideology. They're sucking the cultish dick, the JD Vances of the world. The ideologues are bailing out. That's good for 2024. We'll see how deep that "conviction" is.
I would say that from outsider view it looks that their ideology is fascism but that's not quite true. Looking on some news snippets I would say that there certainly are fascists among them but rest may be simply illiberal (in European sense as this is primarily used to describe orban and kaczynski regimes). There is no hard definition of this beyond rejecting liberal principles (though still using liberal language at least in part) and wanting to transform democratic state into parody of itself.
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 22, 2024 at 10:57 pm
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
August 22, 2024 at 11:03 pm
(August 22, 2024 at 10:54 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: There is no hard definition of this beyond rejecting liberal principles (though still using liberal language at least in part) and wanting to transform democratic state into parody of itself.
That's really on-point. They want to claim the language of liberalism, but want illiberal mean to enforce it. Freedom for everyone, but wimmenfolk get harnessed to the birthing-straps and black folks get kept in "black jobs".
Never mind the illegals who pluck our tomatoes and clip our celery -- they can't vote so they don't matter at all.
But hey, we want rights for all, now don't we?
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