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Poll: What is the main religion (or lack of) in 100 years?
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Christianity
9.09%
1 9.09%
Islam
0%
0 0%
Atheism
72.73%
8 72.73%
We won't make it that long
18.18%
2 18.18%
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What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
#21
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
(February 7, 2012 at 5:08 am)Hitchslap Wrote: Look at it this way, history can't account for the things we know now and how far we've gotten in just recent years.

Neither would even exist without the history of which they are the results.
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#22
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
Who knows. All we can do is attempt progress in our lifetimes.
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#23
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
Ever wonder how many little nutter cults and denominations spring up in the span of 100 years? There will always be someone willing to take the gullible for all they're worth.
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#24
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
I will mostly enjoy the moment when in future newspapers there will be "There still are people who belive in God..." like there was a newspaper that said "There are people who don't belive in God!"
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#25
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
If there is a religion dominant, it will be Islam. In western (i.e christian ) nations, Atheism / Agnosticism is the fastest growing religious view, even in the USA. The more wealthy states in Europe ( UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands ) and a few others already have 20-30% Atheists / Agnostics. A study in the UK suggests that as much as 2/3 of teenagers don't believe in a God.

In Middle Eastern countries, this is not set to change. A lot of the middle east is still under Sharia Law and due to the extremist views of lots of people in power this won't change. Add to this the insurgent strikes and terrorist groups violently upholding their beliefs ( attacking schools, killing the more liberal politicians ) it leads to a whole lot of people staying set in their ways.
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#26
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
(February 7, 2012 at 6:22 pm)tobie Wrote: If there is a religion dominant, it will be Islam. In western (i.e christian ) nations, Atheism / Agnosticism is the fastest growing religious view, even in the USA. The more wealthy states in Europe ( UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands ) and a few others already have 20-30% Atheists / Agnostics. A study in the UK suggests that as much as 2/3 of teenagers don't believe in a God.

In Middle Eastern countries, this is not set to change. A lot of the middle east is still under Sharia Law and due to the extremist views of lots of people in power this won't change. Add to this the insurgent strikes and terrorist groups violently upholding their beliefs ( attacking schools, killing the more liberal politicians ) it leads to a whole lot of people staying set in their ways.

You're omitting very large parts of the world. Effectively most of it: in Russia the Russian Orthodox church has been and still is in a great revival since the abolition of the USSR. In China the Falung Gong is growing astronomically. In Brasil and southern Africa Pentecostalism is rising like there's no tomorrow.

If you think atheism is 'winning' I unfortunately have to advise you that the opposite is the case. Europe and north-America are exceptions, not the rule!
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#27
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
(February 7, 2012 at 7:31 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(February 7, 2012 at 6:22 pm)tobie Wrote: If there is a religion dominant, it will be Islam. In western (i.e christian ) nations, Atheism / Agnosticism is the fastest growing religious view, even in the USA. The more wealthy states in Europe ( UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands ) and a few others already have 20-30% Atheists / Agnostics. A study in the UK suggests that as much as 2/3 of teenagers don't believe in a God.

In Middle Eastern countries, this is not set to change. A lot of the middle east is still under Sharia Law and due to the extremist views of lots of people in power this won't change. Add to this the insurgent strikes and terrorist groups violently upholding their beliefs ( attacking schools, killing the more liberal politicians ) it leads to a whole lot of people staying set in their ways.

You're omitting very large parts of the world. Effectively most of it: in Russia the Russian Orthodox church has been and still is in a great revival since the abolition of the USSR. In China the Falung Gong is growing astronomically. In Brasil and southern Africa Pentecostalism is rising like there's no tomorrow.

If you think atheism is 'winning' I unfortunately have to advise you that the opposite is the case. Europe and north-America are exceptions, not the rule!

I get the impression that orthodox church in Russia has revived where one expects it to revive, in rural, poor, backward places, and treated cynically as novelty fad amongst the Nuevo riche, and with contempt amongst the educated and governmental elite.

I think you can bet Russia is functionally far more atheistic now, and for the foreseeable future, than she could have been without 70 years of communist rule.

Conversations with people from china suggests fulanggong grew primarily in their own propaganda aimed at the west. It has always been largely restricted to dispossessed and ill educated retirees from old communist state enterprises. It is treated so contemptuously amongst the middle class in china that calling it by the no mean epitaph of "cult" in a atheistic society is appearently not enough. It is reflexively called a crooked cult.


(February 7, 2012 at 7:31 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(February 7, 2012 at 6:22 pm)tobie Wrote: If there is a religion dominant, it will be Islam. In western (i.e christian ) nations, Atheism / Agnosticism is the fastest growing religious view, even in the USA. The more wealthy states in Europe ( UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands ) and a few others already have 20-30% Atheists / Agnostics. A study in the UK suggests that as much as 2/3 of teenagers don't believe in a God.

In Middle Eastern countries, this is not set to change. A lot of the middle east is still under Sharia Law and due to the extremist views of lots of people in power this won't change. Add to this the insurgent strikes and terrorist groups violently upholding their beliefs ( attacking schools, killing the more liberal politicians ) it leads to a whole lot of people staying set in their ways.

You're omitting very large parts of the world. Effectively most of it: in Russia the Russian Orthodox church has been and still is in a great revival since the abolition of the USSR. In China the Falung Gong is growing astronomically. In Brasil and southern Africa Pentecostalism is rising like there's no tomorrow.

If you think atheism is 'winning' I unfortunately have to advise you that the opposite is the case. Europe and north-America are exceptions, not the rule!

I get the impression that orthodox church in Russia has revived where one expects it to revive, in rural, poor, backward places, and treated cynically as novelty fad amongst the Nuevo riche, and with contempt amongst the educated and governmental elite.

I think you can bet Russia is functionally far more atheistic now, and for the foreseeable future, than she could have been without 70 years of communist rule.

Conversations with people from china suggests fulanggong grew primarily in their own propaganda aimed at the west. It has always been largely restricted to dispossessed and ill educated retirees from old communist state enterprises. It is appearently treated with exceptional contempt amongst the middle class and educated in china.

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#28
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
(February 7, 2012 at 8:37 am)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(February 7, 2012 at 5:08 am)Hitchslap Wrote: Look at it this way, history can't account for the things we know now and how far we've gotten in just recent years.

Neither would even exist without the history of which they are the results.

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#29
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
I said atheism, but of course I'm being optimistic...
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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#30
RE: What will be that main way of religion in 100 years?
(February 7, 2012 at 8:17 pm)Chuck Wrote: Conversations with people from china suggests fulanggong grew primarily in their own propaganda aimed at the west.

Conversations with what "people from China"? Sounds like you're quoting the official line. Which has got nothing to do with reality. You are aware that Chinese authorities' (and don't forget China is a dictatorship!) policy is to downplay the Falun Gong's rise, growth, and influence, aren't you? Your "conversations with people from china" sound remarkably like that.

If the Falun Gong is so insignificant then why are their members imprisoned and executed by the thousands?

Best conservative estimates (not official Chinese estimates) put Falun Gong membership at 100 million. Minimum!
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