Noah's Ark

[Ace Otana]

Well I apologize for the redundant thread then, just trying to be part of the community and all that.

I know it has all been reduced to ashes but you can still load what's left of it into an atom bomb. We haven't done that yet.

[NoMoreFaith]

Well, seeing as the amount of bullshit old testament believing christians spout, the refutations are bound to repeat themselves.

Personally, I thought it was an amusing piece of math nor have I seen it reasoned out from that perspective, so you get my Kudos.

SOME people are exceptionally grumpy today

[KichigaiNeko]

You bet your sweet penis I am

[Doubting Thomas]

And then you forget that the instructions to Noah were to take two of every unclean animal, but seven of every clean animal. So it's not just two of every species, but two or seven. That's a lot of fucking animals to put on a small boat.

Yes, we have rehashed this many, many times, but to me it's important that this information be available, especially with the fact that googling "Noah's ark" might bring up some of the refutations. With the fanaticism that so many fundie Christians have with Noah's ark (they're building a theme park in Kentucky, there's one in London, and one somewhere else that I can't remember), it's important to show people how damn impossible that story is.

[Napoléon]

Rather tedious if you ask me....

The subject has been done to the death...please use "Search" facility before posting.

You've said this 3 times, and I've apologized 3 times.

Don't be too ruffled. I didn't mind the post at all, I thought it was an interesting use of math.

As for this topic being done before, yeah it has, but it's nice sometimes to start a new thread because I don't usually like sifting through about 40 pages worth of replies just to share my input.

[The Grand Nudger]

Myth requires no evidence to be debunked, because it offers none in the first place. That's why we call it myth.

[Minimalist]

I'm not so sure about this, Kichi.

A good "Ark" thread is always a lot of fun. You just know the fundies can't resist yet another opportunity to make fucking fools of themselves and we have several newbies who would probably jump at the chance.


Bring it on, I say!

[Doubting Thomas]

Yeah, I think the ark/global flood myth is the most unbelievable story in the bible, so it's hilarious when Christians try to defend it as true. Even funnier when they donate hard-earned dollars to people who organize expeditions to find the ark on Mt. Ararat, and ones who have claimed to have actually found it.

[Saved]

We all know this story is bullshit, but I just had a debate with a Christian about this issue and it's still fresh on my mind so here it goes. A foreword, math is not my strong point and this was a quick write up as I'm currently at work, so if someone more mathematically inclined would like to fix my values go right ahead.

As of 2010, there are 1.7 million known species on Earth. Let's give the Christians the benefit of the doubt and remove Fish (31,300), Crustaceans (47,000), Corals (2,175) and Algae (13,201). Let's also condense the insects down to say, 25,000 from 1,000,000 for space sake. This lowers to number of species to a paltry 631,324. Double that and you have 1,262,648 animals. Each animal requires it's own space and it's own food to survive for 40 days and 40 nights. Some animals are much larger then others and some are much smaller. To reach an easy medium of space needed, let's say that all these animals need approximately the space and food a human would need. A human could survive for a little over a month in say, a 6x4' (24sq ft) room or so. Using this logic, the Ark would have needed to be 30,303,552sq feet just to store the animals. That's 1.08699sq miles. This is before you take in to account the amount of food and fresh water needed to sustain all these animals. Now obviously the boat would have been boat shaped and not a square. If you just take the 6 foot rooms needed and multiply it by the number of species you end up with a ship that is 1434 miles long, almost half the distance across the United States...

It's ridiculous to think that Noah would have been able to build something this massive, gather all these creatures, gather all the supplies, keep 1,262,648 fed and hydrated and managed to clean the feces from said animals several times a day.

You can't use science to try to prove the great flood didn't happen because in those days the world was filled with the magic of the Lord and the normal laws of nature could (and still can) be suspended at any moment to fulfill his will. If you created the universe you can do anything you like with it.

[Minimalist]

You just know the fundies can't resist yet another opportunity to make fucking fools of themselves

As predicted.