Someone debate me

[FallentoReason]

If you're referring to the God of the Bible, then I'm keen for a debate.

[Jeffonthenet]

Are you accepting the debate challenge? Ditto what I said to the last responder.

Yeah sure, playing Devil's Advocate will be fun, and I will learn from it surely.

I want to debate someone who actually believes what they are saying, not someone simply playing devil's advocate.

[FemmeRealism]

I'm new, how do I join a "formal debate"?

[Annik]

MK is a deist; he doesn't buy into Christian dogma. I'll sure he'll be just fine.

[Jeffonthenet]

I'm new, how do I join a "formal debate"?

I am not sure either. There is a section at the bottom of the threads for them.

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Actually maybe I am thinking of a different site… we may need to go elsewhere...

[Rayaan]

If you want to have a formal debate with a single member, then you have to do this in the Debate Area in the Philosophy section.

However, there are certain rules that you have to follow before you can start a debate. See below:

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This is not a forum for posting random debates where anyone is able to argue for or against a topic.

In order to post in this forum you must outline your debate motion, and name the people who will be debating in a Private Message to one of the administrators.

The people you mention will be the only ones who will be allowed to comment, unless everyone in the debate agrees to another member joining in. Nobody else is allowed to comment on the things being said (as in a standard debate). You may contact the contributors by PM or create a thread in the General Discussion forum if you wish to talk about something they have said.

Debating is to be civil, and can either be a point for point debate or one where many points are raised and discussed, with rebuttals from either side coming in at various times.

As finding a neutral moderator is going to be near impossible, there will be no declared winner of any debate, unless any team admits defeat.

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[Jeffonthenet]

Thank you

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I'm new, how do I join a "formal debate"?

Are we good to debate the question I proposed then? I can PM an admin right now.

[Mystic]

MK is a deist; he doesn't buy into Christian dogma. I'll sure he'll be just fine.

Actually, I want to argue on the basis of problem of evil.

This argument:

If there was a benevolent Creator, there would not exist unnecessary suffering or suffering that would not bring about a greater good.
There exists suffering that is unnecessary and doesn't bring about a greater good.
Therefore a benevolent Creator does not exist.

Seems very strong to me. And I think my defense I wrote before of the problem of evil, doesn't address this argument.

So I've been thinking of all sorts of unnecessary evils that don't bring about a greater good, and aren't necessary for the system to bring about a heroes heart.

I want to argue against a benevolent Creator, play Devil's advocate, not just the Christian God.

[Annik]

Aaaah. I stand corrected. I think you'd be a more than worthy adversary for him. I don't think he'll take you up on it, you might be too intimidating.

[Jeffonthenet]

I can deal with that elsewhere, but I want this to debate an atheist. Almost everyone here is an atheist who seems to think believing in God is nuts, and actually believing in God rationally was the question I proposed so mystic would be on my side.