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November 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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November 28, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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(November 28, 2012 at 4:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do non-existent things
Negating claims of existence is not the same thing as claiming nonexistence.
Its a nonimplicative or nonaffirming negation.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I should fine you for wasting my time.
Damn, that was a boring read.
(November 28, 2012 at 4:18 pm)alwayson Wrote: (November 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm)Chuck Wrote: Yeah, it's the same continum. We are on the deluded end, and you are on the other end.
I corrected that for you. Yeah, no. Read the rules. Don't misquote people, or the mods frown, and you fall down.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Only to wing-nuts, dearie.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:35 pm
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I know, we're just so mean. 
Quote:Negating existence is not the same thing as claiming nonexistence.
And? I'm just wondering, if we can't so much as claim that something exists, how can we make a claim about the status of it's cause (or lack thereof - or infinite regress thereof)? How can we even claim a cause, if we can't claim that cause exists?
IOW, how do we get to claiming that the big bang has a cause, and it's cause a cause, and it's cause a cause....from an inability to claim that it, or causes, exist in the first place...regardless of whether or not we might affirmatively claim that they don't? How do we do this, as you did this.....in the post I quoted?
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November 28, 2012 at 4:38 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm)Chuck Wrote: Yeah, it's the same continum. We are on the sane end, and you are on the other end.
Actually Chuck, I think he is off the deep end.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 4:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually Chuck, I think he is off the deep end.
Double slit experiment, quantum mechanics etc. will one day shatter your delusions.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm
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Doubtful, I love the double slit (lets face it, I just love slit) and it hasn't shattered any of my "delusions".
Quantum..watch out, this guy said quantum..everybody hit the foxholes.....
(lol, welcome aboard btw Al)
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November 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm
So basically all you guys got are insults. I take that as victory.
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November 28, 2012 at 4:42 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm)alwayson Wrote: I take that as victory.
It's an illusion.
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