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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm
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(March 19, 2013 at 7:43 am)LastPoet Wrote: I wonder if, given that jstrodel has found his god, what motivation does he have to post such a drivel. You can type and sing all about your 'spirit friend', it will still be far removed from reality.
This guy really is an exercise in poe's law. I truly wished that people couldn't be this deluded, but then, there are those with much worse beliefs, so I don't know, I truly don't.
To be a spirit friend is to cease to concern yourself with what you can control to be real and empty yourself of all your pride (not just feeling haughty, it is complicated concept, it is like death to self) remove yourself from the cultural prejudices and ways of thinking that define a certain period of human history, other periods believed differently, and just try and live without feeling the need to create or dominate or control anything just emptying the self of all its preoccupations and desires and everything that drives it and hungering for truth, not a cultural abstraction of truth.
It works. Either I am lying or I'm not.
You can be carnal or be spiritual. If you are spiritual, you will see God and know God is real. If you are carnal, you will never find God, you will spend your days trying to prove you are smarter than others. It is up to you.
I am not advocating fideism and I am not advocating irrationalism, I am advocating a purging of the self of all of its cultural preoccupations and standards and measures and politics and deciding that you want to know for sure whether God exists.
If you care enough, it is there for you. I promise you that. If you would prefer to "refute" Christianity based on your 21st century pride, you can have that, but I wouldn't trade what I have for it in a minute.
Jesus emptied himself. That is the way to know God. You empty yourself and you see everything through God's eyes. You stop esteeming your own beliefs and opinions so highly and thinking you know better than God. You see your culture as what it is. And you listen.
Or you can debate and "refute" Christianity using English language concepts and values that are foreign to it, that fail to even appreciate its real meaning.
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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Cease concerning yourself with what is called real at the next crosswalk. Idle words Strodel, idle words.
(March 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm)jstrodel Wrote: It works. Either I am lying or I'm not. Or it doesn't, or it's spotty, or you're are mistaken, or you're mad, etc etc etc. Oh king of the false dichotomy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Why are they idle? What makes your culture better than all the others?
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Did I say that it was at some point? Nope, nope I didn't. Yet another example of why your words are idle. Thank you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:02 pm
(March 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Jesus emptied himself.
At a holy urinal, no doubt.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Either it is idle to say that you should transcend your culture or your culture is greater than all the others.
(A v B)
which is it, ~A or ~B?
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:08 pm
C-Z are missing.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:09 pm
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Unsure what that means. Why are my words idle? What choices are left. Either it is pointless to transcend your culture or it isn't. Was I not "poetic" enough for you, didn't make the cut?
Shouldn't someone be evaluated on the basis of what they say, rather than subjective concerns? Or is life all about being cool after all?
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:12 pm
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You're unsure what that means? I doubt it, you'd simply rather not acknowledge it as it is integral to the way you communicate (and possibly even earnestly perceive the world around you). Whether or not your words are idle isn't a measure of your poetic ability.
What sort of evaluation do you think one would make of you based upon the things that you say? Are you entirely certain that you would like to be evaluated in this way?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God is the great spirit friend
March 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Whether I have poetic ability or not is very debatable. The question of whether to understand reality it is necessary to transcend your culture is a different story. I don't see how anyone could fail to appreciate that requirement. Why do you feel that you are immune from the pernicious effects of national pride?
What sort of evaluation: Whether they are true. Perhaps you would agree that it is necessary to transcend your culture, but disagree that Christian approaches to this are the best. I don't see how from this perspective you would say "my words are idle" if you realized the gravity of an ethnocentric, nationalistic outlook, what great violence and pain results from people's national pride, how damaging it is to the world.
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