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Christ's birthday
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I know, it's one of those biblical mysteries that eludes me. But fr0d0 you don't just believe in the unknowable such as the existence of god you assert your belief as fact.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/ 
They all do. None of them understand the difference between "belief" and "fact."
 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
I can't assert my belief as fact. See above.
 RE: Christ's birthday
November 19, 2009 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2009 at 3:24 pm by Pope Alfred.)
(November 19, 2009 at 3:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I can't assert my belief as fact. See above. In effect, that's what you're doing. I can see from everything you've posted here that you hold both as if equally valid and real. You're just wriggling on the hook about definitions. I notice that Christians who go on about 'faith not needing proof' will damn soon change their tune if they think they've found a little bit of historical or scientific evidence.
Only sheep need a shepherd.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
But that's complete bollocks Alfred. Fucktards will indeed jump such an idiotic and illogical bandwagon. I challenge you to just think of anything at all that could constitute proof of God 'existing'. We Christians will sit on the sidelines laughing at the futility of your search. What you are saying is so illogical it stings... yet you claim to be part of the intellectual elite. Excuse me while I split my sides laughing
RE: Christ's birthday
November 19, 2009 at 6:19 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2009 at 6:22 pm by chatpilot.)
Welcome to the forum Pope Alfred I am glad I am not the only one that sees this I thought I was losing my mind lol. I know what you mean Minimalist fr0d0 and I have been on this roller coaster ride for quite some time now.
There is no objective proof of god that I know of that is sufficient enough to satisfy the requirements of an atheist. I agree fr0d0, the search for evidence for the existence of God is an exercise in futility. But you state your belief as fact basing yourself on faith as your very own subjective evidence.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
My belief is fact ...erm, I believe right? I do not state my belief as fact. How can it be? How many times do I have to say that to you?
It is not that you state it outright but it's the way you state it that gives the impression that you state your belief as fact. By simply stating that your faith requires no evidence (which is true) you say it just is. The existence of god just is and you believe this by faith. Starting your arguments from this position you make your faith appear as fact.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (November 19, 2009 at 7:21 pm)chatpilot Wrote: It is not that you state it outright but it's the way you state it that gives the impression that you state your belief as fact. By simply stating that your faith requires no evidence (which is true) you say it just is. The existence of god just is and you believe this by faith. Starting your arguments from this position you make your faith appear as fact. Dam yo confuzed boi! I have a belief. I state I have a belief. God is a conclusion of a certain set of logical statements. Other conclusions are possible, I'm not saying mine is the only one. I am perfectly happy for others to either not have an opinion, follow other ideas or to have worked it out for themselves. Like I said I don't state that I'm fixed in my opinion. I will change it if I'm convinced another possibility is stronger. I comment if you call my belief what it isn't. Same as I expect you to comment if I misrepresented your ideas/ beliefs. |
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