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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 6:03 pm
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Till mankind can think rationally, absolutely, without outside factors affecting those decisions: We're all fucked. Except for is guy getting three years, who actually got royally reprieved.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 7:42 pm
I'd like to set THAT kid on fire. But not kill him.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 8:25 pm
As soon as someone quotes forum cliches like needing reading comprehension and spews out a bunch of ad hominems, I tend to ignore the debate as I assume they don't actually want any.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 25, 2013 at 3:36 am
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(March 24, 2013 at 3:53 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: This has taught me that I can murder Mr. Sheard and only get three years in the slammer.
Sounds tempting.
I'd be excited... but does this mean I'd have to go to England to set people on fire without serious penalty? I don't know how fiercely Texans might react... I mean, they lock up and kill people if their own houses catch fire 0.o
I wanna make pretty fire on people too I don't care if they die or not... bonus points if it can spread from person to person
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(March 24, 2013 at 8:45 am)paulpablo Wrote: My old school was pretty rough a lot of bullying happened but no one was ever stripped naked, nothing even close to that ever happened.
Lucker dogs!
Quote:I still can't get over the fact that there were several bullies who taunted someone for being gay, then stripped him naked. Didn't at least one of them stop and think "actually stripping another man down naked and then covering him in oil is actually a bit gay in itself" But then I don't know the full story.
The word they want for is 'restraint'. Had all of us said quality in all cases, there would be no crimes of opportunity, or passion, or hate. Just about anything short of organized crime would disappear
... I might have desired it, but I still like people having the ability to emotionally blow up, or to occasionally steal something or kill someone. Shakes things up.
(March 24, 2013 at 10:08 am)Tonus Wrote: Stripping a person naked in public is a way of humiliating them. Bullies need to exert dominance, and humiliating another person is a way that they assert superiority, not only over the victim, but over everyone who sees it and does not step in to stop it.
And when that wasn't enough, and jeering wasn't enough... well, all that's left is to set 'em on fire.
Best to keep me far away from people being bullied, has a habit to end with me in the principles office taking all ze blame from everyone and then what I did myself as well As an adult, that'd be... ah... prison.
(March 24, 2013 at 3:42 pm)justin Wrote: I would Take this ol' boy down a dirt road and no one would ever miss him. Fuck this guy. Why? Why is this behavior being dumb down as if it wasn't a serious crime? Why was this guy doing this evil shit? Why did no one step in? No on helped the kid? Wtf? Why was this perps teeth not kicked the hell in? This is b.s.!
This one wonders... would they miss you?
As for punishments, I was thinking Human Centipede 2. Seemed a little harsh, so now I'm thinking 'forced to watch every episode of carebears on repeat for 5 years'.
Actually, I just made things worse.
(March 24, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: As for the OP: See, this is why, whenever someone tells me that European courts are better than American courts, I say "Uh. In what way, exactly?" This is a fucking atrocity against justice. Three years for manslaughter?! FUCK THAT! That's fucking murder in the third degree. What prosecutor accepted that shit??
I'd have done it if paid enough. That's a lot, jingle jangle, know what I mean?
The real question isn't if he was bribed or had personal interest in the case... it is "why didn't anyone else notice?"
Probably better not chance it again real soon They might get wise.
(March 24, 2013 at 6:03 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Till mankind can think rationally, absolutely, without outside factors affecting those decisions: We're all fucked. Except for is guy getting three years, who actually got royally reprieved.
World looks pretty good to me, and I'm unemployed. Just got to hope you don't get unlucky, since just about everything is illegal
(March 24, 2013 at 8:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: As soon as someone quotes forum cliches like needing reading comprehension and spews out a bunch of ad hominems, I tend to ignore the debate as I assume they don't actually want any.
Assumptions do indeed tend to make asses out of people. Luckily, you don't have to worry about that... since you've been one for a very long time
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 25, 2013 at 4:12 am
I hope they do, Vae. I really fucking hope they do.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 25, 2013 at 4:17 am
(March 25, 2013 at 4:12 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: I hope they do, Vae. I really fucking hope they do.
Don't they have some nonsense where you can't be tried again for the same crime? I forget... can sentences be modified post-trial?
Whole thing's nonsense anyway, but I am curious. Just not curious enough to googleh, been doing that all day and I am les tired.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 25, 2013 at 11:51 am
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One can appeal and recieve a harsher sentence.
(March 24, 2013 at 8:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: As soon as someone quotes forum cliches like needing reading comprehension and spews out a bunch of ad hominems, I tend to ignore the debate as I assume they don't actually want any.
Apologies for interrupting your simplistic mandated sentencing circlejerk in favor of making judges responsible for their actions.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 26, 2013 at 6:25 pm
He probably won't even spend out the full term of his sentence in prison, unfortunately..
Good question Lilly, why didn't anyone else notice??
Care to enlighten this bunny?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 26, 2013 at 7:45 pm
(March 25, 2013 at 4:17 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Don't they have some nonsense where you can't be tried again for the same crime? I forget... can sentences be modified post-trial?
Double jeopardy is the concept. You cannot be tried for a crime if you were tried once and a verdict was reached.
Once a sentence is imposed by a judge, I believe that the only way it can be changed is via options such as sentence reductions for good behavior. I don't think they can be increased, though.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 26, 2013 at 8:26 pm
I have never used tanning oil but I would expect a product that I was applying to my body was NOT flammable. I did a quick search for tanning oil and found no warnings about product being flammable.
I think manslaughter was the correct call.
I also think the company and regulators should change the tanning products to non flammable.
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