Why the bible cannot be trusted?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Quran is different!

[NoraBrimstone]

Quran is different!

Wow! Nobody expected you to say that! I'm shocked!

First, we have at least 3 copies of the first original 6 copies made by Othman about 20 years after the prophet died.
They were collected from people who memorized the Quran by heart and some wrote it on stones, leather, etc.
So we are sure that we have the original Quran brought by Mohamed

At least 3? You don't even know how many? And you think human beings are likely memorize all of that shit accurately? Riiiiiiiight.

To prove that is from God
You will not find a single (clear) Error or mistake
There is no multiple version of Quran to compare
You will not find a single scientific error
there is no contradiction in it

Sure. The Earth really is flat, the sun really does revolve around the Earth (and sets into a pool at the edge of it) and the Moon really is a source of light. Mmmkay.

Also you will find
Many future predictions

Yeah. So many that with a bit of context tweaking, it's inevitable that some would come true. I could spend some time writing hundreds of predictions about the future, without making claims of magic, and over the next 1500 years, some will inevitably become reality. It's not God, it's maths.

Many scientific facts that was not known at that time
Numeric and textual patterns that is impossible to be constructed in any book

Nothing that couldn't be observed at the time.

[Muslim Scholar]

At least 3? You don't even know how many? And you think human beings are likely memorize all of that shit accurately?

it is a miracle by itself, Quran is memorized now (each letter) by millions of Muslims, no other book on earth can be memorized like that, even the Pop doesn't memorize the whole bible.

The Earth really is flat, the sun really does revolve around the Earth (and sets into a pool at the edge of it) and the Moon really is a source of light. Mmmkay.

If you really care, I can explain those claims, they are actually very accurate scientifically
but I don't think that you care to look for the truth.

I could spend some time writing hundreds of predictions about the future, without making claims of magic, and over the next 1500 years, some will inevitably become reality. It's not God, it's maths.

Take some samples from Quran, then try to imitate them!

Many scientific facts that was not known at that time
Numeric and textual patterns that is impossible to be constructed in any book

Nothing that couldn't be observed at the time.

I'll make another thread for that, then it will be a challenge for you to prove that.

[Angrboda]

We got one! Call Bellevue.

[Ryantology]

At least 3? You don't even know how many? And you think human beings are likely memorize all of that shit accurately?

it is a miracle by itself, Quran is memorized now (each letter) by millions of Muslims, no other book on earth can be memorized like that, even the Pop doesn't memorize the whole bible.

Nobody else does that because memorizing any book to the letter is a fucking waste of time.

Take some samples from Quran, then try to imitate them!

I can imitate the entire Quran in five sentences:

Allah created the universe. You are his worthless and degenerate slave. Women are pretty much animals and if you rape one, it's their fault. Here is a short list of people Allah wants you to slaughter: pretty much everybody. The end.

Memorization is much simpler when you just get to the fucking point.

[Dragonetti]

All Abrahamic religions are the same! Garbage!

[Muslim Scholar]

Nobody else does that because memorizing any book to the letter is a fucking waste of time.

It is a standing challenge for 1,400 years
till now no one was able to match it

Many non-arabs as well have memorized Quran (By Sound) in very short periods

The Quran is a book of 600 pages that has stories, preachings, and more
I knew a British guy who memorized the whole Quran in less than 2 months.

God said in the Quran, "And we made it easy for memorizing"

Just one challenge out of many in Quran.

[Minimalist]

First, we have at least 3 copies of the first original 6 copies made by Othman about 20 years after the prophet died.

You are full of shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_...iving_copy

Having studied early Qur'an manuscripts, John Gilchrist states: "The oldest manuscripts of the Quran still in existence date from not earlier than about one hundred years after Muhammad's death."

Of course, that presupposes that there was a "muhammad" in the first place. Highly dubious assumption, there.

[Aractus]

Quran is different!


First, we have at least 3 copies of the first original 6 copies made by Othman about 20 years after the prophet died.
They were collected from people who memorized the Quran by heart and some wrote it on stones, leather, etc.
So we are sure that we have the original Quran brought by Mohamed

Pfft. You have a Qu'ran that you are sure contains "the original wording", so what? We have a Bible that we are sure contains ~99.5% the original wording with the 0.5% being largely irrelevant textual differences. Aw aren't facts hurtful?

To prove that is from God
You will not find a single (clear) Error or mistake
There is no multiple version of Quran to compare
You will not find a single scientific error
there is no contradiction in it

Also you will find
Many future predictions
Many scientific facts that was not known at that time
Numeric and textual patterns that is impossible to be constructed in any book

Pfft ... nonsense.

[Dragonetti]

So what if someone can remember the Koran by sound!

What does that prove? I can remember the colors for 568B standard for Cat5e by sight!