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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 19, 2013 at 4:33 am
(May 19, 2013 at 3:44 am)Dragonetti Wrote: So what if someone can remember the Koran by sound!
What does that prove? I can remember the colors for 568B standard for Cat5e by sight! It is one out of many wonders in Quran
Can you mention just one book that can be remembered by sound?
It is not only Arabs, a person who doesn't understands or speaks Arabic, can remember 600 pages of texts is a miracle.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 19, 2013 at 4:53 am
(May 19, 2013 at 4:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 19, 2013 at 3:44 am)Dragonetti Wrote: So what if someone can remember the Koran by sound!
What does that prove? I can remember the colors for 568B standard for Cat5e by sight! It is one out of many wonders in Quran
Can you mention just one book that can be remembered by sound?
It is not only Arabs, a person who doesn't understands or speaks Arabic, can remember 600 pages of texts is a miracle.
That is utter and horrible bullshit. That is not a miracle.
Miracle is not something you practice over and over.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 19, 2013 at 6:49 am
(May 19, 2013 at 4:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Can you mention just one book that can be remembered by sound? The Very Hungry Caterpillar.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 12:00 am
(May 5, 2013 at 7:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 5, 2013 at 6:38 am)Aractus Wrote: Oh, and as far as your numbers are concerned - we already know some of the numbers in the Bible are wrong. All that means is that there's a few isolated errors here and there, it's barely significant. I mean it's not like having a contradicting account or something. Thanks for the sincerity!
Before we go to other major fallacies.
Now, how do you know that other "Major" statements in the bible are true or false?
(May 5, 2013 at 5:29 am)Dragonetti Wrote: The sad part is his religion is younger than the Bible.
The Quran came after the Bible. That is HISTORICAL fact.
Both books are fairy tales. We will talk about Quran later
Don't be a troll and stick to the subject.
Why?
Are you able to prove that the Sun sets into a pool of water on the earth?
THe Koran is nothing more than an another set of human created myth and legend - and belongs in the same category as the bible - Religious MYTH - and the idea that YOU can identify the bible to contain errors BUT you cannot find any in the Quran is Humerous
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 12:12 am
(May 19, 2013 at 4:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is not only Arabs, a person who doesn't understands or speaks Arabic, can remember 600 pages of texts is a miracle.
Miracle or not, you have yet to demonstrate what benefit is derived from memorizing 600 pages of text, Quran or other.
What a complete waste of fucking time.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 12:19 am
Quote:We have a Bible that we are sure contains ~99.5% the original wording
Which doesn't help at all since it was horseshit to begin with.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am
(May 20, 2013 at 12:12 am)cato123 Wrote: (May 19, 2013 at 4:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is not only Arabs, a person who doesn't understands or speaks Arabic, can remember 600 pages of texts is a miracle.
Miracle or not, you have yet to demonstrate what benefit is derived from memorizing 600 pages of text, Quran or other.
What a complete waste of fucking time. Prophet Mohamed said
for every verse to be memorized the person will go a higher level in Paradise
(Sadly that you will never see it!)
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 8:30 am
(May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Prophet Mohamed said
for every verse to be memorized the person will go a higher level in Paradise
(Sadly that you will never see it!) And how would he have come across such wondrous knowledge?
What if he was *GASP* lying?!
Can your head attempt such a proposition?
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 8:32 am
(May 20, 2013 at 8:30 am)pocaracas Wrote: (May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Prophet Mohamed said
for every verse to be memorized the person will go a higher level in Paradise
(Sadly that you will never see it!) And how would he have come across such wondrous knowledge?
What if he was *GASP* lying?!
Can your head attempt such a proposition? I'm going to prove my divinity by predicting...... "No."
I'm right because I'm a Goddess. You'll see.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 20, 2013 at 9:31 am
(May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Prophet Mohamed said
for every verse to be memorized the person will go a higher level in Paradise
While I can get behind the idea of multiple tiers in heaven (not everyone is the same amount of "good" just as not everyone is the same amount of "evil"), it seems odd to tie it to something so arbitrary. It also makes you wonder just how different these levels are. How many verses are there in the Koran? Around 6,236? So there are 6,236 levels in heaven?
Is there a discernible difference between level 5,540 and 5,541? Or 5,540 and 5,718? What level do you end up in if you memorized 2,340 of them but you mispronounced a word in three of them? What if you were a devout and faithful Muslim but never learned to read? Do you get stuck on level 1, while the person who wasn't nearly as devout gets to level 107 because he occasionally memorized a passage in spite of himself?
It makes Islam sound like an MMORPG.
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