Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 1:27 pm by fr0d0.)
(August 12, 2013 at 8:58 am)Chas Wrote: Are you asserting that there are no accurate translations?
Are you asserting that it is untranslatable?
No scholarship I have ever read asserts those things.
The translations are as accurate as they can be, but the contextual reference still needs to be applied. Obviously the skeptics bible are making a living from the confusion that we must overcome to understand an ancient culture.
Scholars are engaged in exactly this. Translations have to be continually adapted to be understood against an ever changing modern context.
(August 12, 2013 at 9:15 am)ITChick Wrote: I'm sure that frodo will be along soon saying that the bible meant that god gave them chocolate ice creams 
The unforgivable sin still feels wrong to me though. The ex-christian in me is shouting : "no, you will not go to hell for that."
You rang, m'lady?
No the babies were guilty sinners. God knew this.You cannot.
No matter how many times we all tell the OP that he hasn't committed the unforgivable sin, I get the impression he's going to keep on thinking it
My personal opinion of him is that he's blinkered. There's nothing quite like confirming your bias, that's why he's here.
Posts: 193
Threads: 45
Joined: August 8, 2013
Reputation:
6
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 1:47 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (August 12, 2013 at 8:58 am)Chas Wrote: Are you asserting that there are no accurate translations?
Are you asserting that it is untranslatable?
No scholarship I have ever read asserts those things.
The translations are as accurate as they can be, but the contextual reference still needs to be applied. Obviously the skeptics bible are making a living from the confusion that we must overcome to understand an ancient culture.
Scholars are engaged in exactly this. Translations have to be continually adapted to be understood against an ever changing modern context.
(August 12, 2013 at 9:15 am)ITChick Wrote: I'm sure that frodo will be along soon saying that the bible meant that god gave them chocolate ice creams
The unforgivable sin still feels wrong to me though. The ex-christian in me is shouting : "no, you will not go to hell for that."
You rang, m'lady?
No the babies were guilty sinners. God knew this.You cannot.
No matter how many times we all tell the OP that he hasn't committed the unforgivable sin, I get the impression he's going to keep on thinking it
My personal opinion of him is that he's blinkered. There's nothing quite like confirming your bias, that's why he's here.
Hi Fr0d0,
Listen mate the reason why I was worried is because of God because I wanted to be with him and didnt want to goto Hell. Lets face it is the only fucking reason why I wanted to be 'In' with God.
God himself sounds like a cruel fucker and from reading Genesis 1 to 25 there is alot of bull shit. I have been told to keep reading but its kind of hard that the righeous people in the bible are dick heads... Actually theres a great similarity to modern day Christians.
I had been burned by Christians many times for my views - Lost lots of friends because I hung out with 'Sinners' but you know one thing Fr0d0 the 'Sinners' were more genuine than any Christian I have ever met!
Simply put I am leaving Christianity because I am pissed off at the Conformity. A God who would torment people over the unforgivable sin or even say such a thing and then not explain it is very poor.
I am said I have lost my faith but Glad that I am not the only one who can actually see that its bull shit.
One thing I do miss though is Church - Because encouragement from others in person really helps with Indoctrination and an Athiest Forum dont quite cut it. Perhaps Il start a group!
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 1:47 pm)themonkeyman Wrote: the reason why I was worried is because of God because I wanted to be with him and didnt want to goto Hell.
You're in hell now. How does it feel?
Pascal's wager is a very bad reason to believe in God. In fact it isn't a reason. God wants you to be with him now. The choice of Christianity is the choice of good over evil. God is good, being with him means choosing good. Get it?
Now you can try to be good outside of religion. As confused as you sound that might be the best option for you. Forget about confirming your negativity. Break it off and go be a good person and focus on living a good, selfless life.
If you ever want to consider religion, do it because it inspires and enhances your life.
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 5:35 pm
(August 11, 2013 at 10:37 pm)Drich Wrote: Its the George Carlins who are in their late 70's who have been flying the flag of God hate and disbelief their whole lives who look forward to 'oblivion' are the ones who are in danger.
Now that's quite a claim.
Prove it.
Posts: 2082
Threads: 72
Joined: March 12, 2013
Reputation:
44
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Drich: "Puh-puh..pruh...What's that P-word mean? You mean you want a Bible page..or?"
Posts: 13392
Threads: 187
Joined: March 18, 2012
Reputation:
48
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm by Drich.)
(August 12, 2013 at 5:35 pm)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: (August 11, 2013 at 10:37 pm)Drich Wrote: Its the George Carlins who are in their late 70's who have been flying the flag of God hate and disbelief their whole lives who look forward to 'oblivion' are the ones who are in danger.
Now that's quite a claim.
Prove it. Prove what?
(August 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Drich: "Puh-puh..pruh...What's that P-word mean? You mean you want a Bible page..or?"
?
Posts: 2082
Threads: 72
Joined: March 12, 2013
Reputation:
44
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 9:51 pm
LMAO!
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 13, 2013 at 3:55 am
(August 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm)Drich Wrote: Prove what?
The claim I quoted. That the 'George Carlin's' who look forward to 'oblivion' are 'the one's who are in danger.'
Quote:?
Errrm.... I think he was referring to "proof", and you not understanding the word. It's kind of ironic that you didn't realize that's what he was talking about.
Posts: 174
Threads: 6
Joined: July 14, 2013
Reputation:
11
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 13, 2013 at 7:09 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2013 at 7:10 am by ITChick.)
(August 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You rang, m'lady?
No the babies were guilty sinners. God knew this.You cannot.
I have to admit that I did not expect Frodo to go with the "Evil Baby" argument.
Warning: Evil baby
I have to say that I'm convinced. I'm glad that God is protecting me against all of these evil babies.
Warning: Very evil baby
Any spelling mistakes are due to my godlessness!
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
RE: Why I feel Stuck in Christianity
August 13, 2013 at 7:30 am
That 2nd one is scary
|
