If these resident theists really talk to god..

[max-greece]

really? damn. she sounds hot

Well you could always buy her an ice cream and see what happens. That's what I did....

[Drich]

No that's not true, I get what you think, I just don't care. I've seen too much, endured too much, been given well more than my share of good and bad and been carried through it all. For this I can not be silent, no matter what the mundane may think or say.

I offer a similar experience for you to experience.

You see, this is what gets you in trouble here. You arrogantly assume that since I haven't turned to god, I haven't suffered as you have. I'm quite certain I can go toe to toe with you as far as experience goes, and I was able to overcome my struggles without belief in a god. It's these assumptions you make about other people and how others couldn't possibly have been through what you've been that make you appear closed-minded and narcissistic.

I have suffered just as you have. The only difference is I don't wish my suffering upon you in a desperate attempt to convince you that my religious views are correct.

Suffering is only 1/2 the equation. Prosperity is the other 1/2. Lord willing maybe one day I will be able to fly all of you here to see the proof of both halves. That day has not come yet, but I think I see it on the horizon.

Whether that particular day comes or not, I have not only found contentment in whatever I have been given, but through it all I also prize what has been taken away. So, I can truly rejoice and say:
The Lord gives and The Lord takes away, blessed be the name of The Lord.

[Captain Colostomy]

You're a royal shit, Drich.

That is all.

[Minimalist]

Lord willing maybe one day

There's no lord, asshole.

[Esquilax]

Suffering is only 1/2 the equation. Prosperity is the other 1/2. Lord willing maybe one day I will be able to fly all of you here to see the proof of both halves. That day has not come yet, but I think I see it on the horizon.

Whether that particular day comes or not, I have not only found contentment in whatever I have been given, but through it all I also prize what has been taken away. So, I can truly rejoice and say:
The Lord gives and The Lord takes away, blessed be the name of The Lord.

So, just to be real clear, here: FNM called you out on making an arrogant assumption about the people here, and your response to him, to rebut the premise of his argument, is to move the goalposts and, in the process, making a second arrogant assumption?

You're just really intent on ensuring this hole you're in has no bottom, aren't you?

[Faith No More]

Drich's SOP appears to be that when called out on irrationality/arrogance/assumptions, double down. He lives in a bubble and can't comprehend that others view life very differently.

[Brakeman]

Even with the help of his almighty god, creator of the universe and possessor of all knowledge, Drich is a colossal failure in defending his delusions..

[Drich]

Suffering is only 1/2 the equation. Prosperity is the other 1/2. Lord willing maybe one day I will be able to fly all of you here to see the proof of both halves. That day has not come yet, but I think I see it on the horizon.

Whether that particular day comes or not, I have not only found contentment in whatever I have been given, but through it all I also prize what has been taken away. So, I can truly rejoice and say:
The Lord gives and The Lord takes away, blessed be the name of The Lord.

So, just to be real clear, here: FNM called you out on making an arrogant assumption about the people here, and your response to him, to rebut the premise of his argument, is to move the goalposts and, in the process, making a second arrogant assumption?

You're just really intent on ensuring this hole you're in has no bottom, aren't you?

I can see how you would assume this because you guys only wanted to make this about disproving my diagnosis of AIDS. From my Pov however The month it took to go through that whole thing was nothing compared to all of the other ups and downs God has brought me through. This Complete OverView is call a Testimony in most Christian circles. But again seemingly the best I can get in the way if understanding Is what FNM assumed. That I believe in God because all of the bad things that happened in my life. Which I promptly corrected. The good far outweighs the bad, and when communicating a complete testimony one can not just focus on the bad. We have only ever discussed the bad here because that is all you all want to focus on. Which is fine, until one of you assumes my faith is built on the same bad crap your unbelief is based on.

I did not move the goal posts here. I simply brought the rest of the conversation back into view for you all.

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Even with the help of his almighty god, creator of the universe and possessor of all knowledge, Drich is a colossal failure in defending his delusions..

Then why does every discussion end with personal beliefs against me and not the message I bring?

I look at it this way, because the message can not be destroyed you look to destroy the messenger. Thereby allowing you the option to now dismiss the message. This is how unbelief is maintained when the message itself can not be outright dismissed.

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So, just to be real clear, here: FNM called you out on making an arrogant assumption about the people here, and your response to him, to rebut the premise of his argument, is to move the goalposts and, in the process, making a second arrogant assumption?

You're just really intent on ensuring this hole you're in has no bottom, aren't you?

I can see how you would assume this because you guys only wanted to make this about disproving my diagnosis of AIDS. From my Pov however The month it took to go through that whole thing was nothing compared to all of the other ups and downs God has brought me through. This Complete OverView is call a Testimony in most Christian circles. But again seemingly the best I can get in the way if understanding Is what FNM assumed. That I believe in God because all of the bad things that happened in my life. Which I promptly corrected. The good far outweighs the bad, and when communicating a complete testimony one can not just focus on the bad. We have only ever discussed the bad here because that is all you all want to focus on. Which is fine, until one of you assumes my faith is built on the same bad crap your unbelief is based on.

I did not move the goal posts here. I simply brought the rest of the conversation back into view for you all.

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Even with the help of his almighty god, creator of the universe and possessor of all knowledge, Drich is a colossal failure in defending his delusions..

Then why does every discussion end with personal beliefs against me and not the message I bring?

I look at it this way, because the message can not be destroyed you look to destroy the messenger. Thereby allowing you the option to now dismiss the message. This is how unbelief is maintained when the message itself can not be outright dismissed.

Look at how your work personally against me has decomposed from being somewhat scripturaly based attacks to just being personal attacks... If my works were so easy to dismiss then why not stick to saying something revelant? Something topical? Why do the majority of your posts not start till after the subject matter has been set aside in favor of coming after me or just some greater appeal to some social morality?

[Faith No More]

I can see how you would assume this because you guys only wanted to make this about disproving my diagnosis of AIDS. From my Pov however The month it took to go through that whole thing was nothing compared to all of the other ups and downs God has brought me through. This Complete OverView is call a Testimony in most Christian circles. But again seemingly the best I can get in the way if understanding Is what FNM assumed. That I believe in God because all of the bad things that happened in my life. Which I promptly corrected. The good far outweighs the bad, and when communicating a complete testimony one can not just focus on the bad. We have only ever discussed the bad here because that is all you all want to focus on. Which is fine, until one of you assumes my faith is built on the same bad crap your unbelief is based on.

I didn't assume that your belief is based on the bad things in your life, even thought that would be a safe assumption to make given all of the emphasis you put on having AIDS and how you want us to get sick because you think that will make us turn to god. My point was that you make assumptions about other people's experiences based on the fact that they do not believe in god, but then, after having said you want me to experience what you've experienced, you continued on with more of your assumptions without even attempting to find out what I have experienced. Rather than admit you made an unfounded assumption, you expanded upon it.

It's this lack of trying to understand what others have been through while constantly droning on about your own experiences that pisses me off.

[Drich]

I can see how you would assume this because you guys only wanted to make this about disproving my diagnosis of AIDS. From my Pov however The month it took to go through that whole thing was nothing compared to all of the other ups and downs God has brought me through. This Complete OverView is call a Testimony in most Christian circles. But again seemingly the best I can get in the way if understanding Is what FNM assumed. That I believe in God because all of the bad things that happened in my life. Which I promptly corrected. The good far outweighs the bad, and when communicating a complete testimony one can not just focus on the bad. We have only ever discussed the bad here because that is all you all want to focus on. Which is fine, until one of you assumes my faith is built on the same bad crap your unbelief is based on.

I didn't assume that your belief is based on the bad things in your life, even thought that would be a safe assumption to make given all of the emphasis you put on having AIDS and how you want us to get sick because you think that will make us turn to god. My point was that you make assumptions about other people's experiences based on the fact that they do not believe in god, but then, after having said you want me to experience what you've experienced, you continued on with more of your assumptions without even attempting to find out what I have experienced. Rather than admit you made an unfounded assumption, you expanded upon it.

It's this lack of trying to understand what others have been through while constantly droning on about your own experiences that pisses me off.

I talked about my AIDS Scare because that is all that any of you wanted to discuss. I tried to stop the conversation several times.

I did not offer to pray to make people sick so they would be scared and turn to God. you've confused what I said with what others are saying about me.

I simply offered to pray the prayer that I prayed for myself (that yes did see me though my Aids scare), but not to scare any of you into belief. If you all weren't on such a witch hunt, and looking for sound bites to twist into something malicious or evil, you would have noted that in my orginal post as well as several other points along the way, that said I was already a Christian. That none of this scared me into my faith.

I offered the prayer that i Prayed for myself (I will call "The prayer of Job" not because He prayed for any of the things that happened to him, because I like him lost everything and had my friends and family turn on me for the most part.) And also Job was a well established believer, when his life turned on end.
And again on the back end he got back everything he lost 10xs over.. I'm not completely there yet but it seems God has me on that track now.

I offered the prayer of Job, to you all because it gave me an unshakable faith, but none of you could look past the cost you might be asked to pay, and then you all turned everything to something evil, so as to bask in your own self righteousness, and the only cost there was to simply let you imagination run away with the truth..

If and when that stuff happens i simply let it go. Why? because if the members of this board have it in their mind there is a witch amongest them, then they will not rest till they find it and do their best to burn said witch. Once the rioters have their pound of flesh, seldom do they care about the truth I can then speak after thier deed is done.