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RE: Answered prayer
January 26, 2014 at 3:59 am
(January 26, 2014 at 1:54 am)Drich Wrote: (January 25, 2014 at 12:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: At one time you laud your god for saving your ass (with the exception of your underpants), and the next moment you claim incredible driving skills. Well which is it? God? Prowess? Luck? ...a combination of all three? To claim any is presumptuous. I'm glad you're okay, no matter how you and your wife survived the incident. Your driving skills sound the most likely cause for your survival to me, but pulling god into the equation is asking for a theological debate from people here. Get over yourself.
 in your understanding does driving experience somehow negate God's ability to direct a favorable out come? Would not praise your own skills to much, you manged to make a huge truck slide on black ice. You should have known there would be black ice and driven appropriately, but instead I would daresay you were going to fast to begin with.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Answered prayer
January 26, 2014 at 4:52 am
(January 26, 2014 at 3:59 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (January 26, 2014 at 1:54 am)Drich Wrote: in your understanding does driving experience somehow negate God's ability to direct a favorable out come? Would not praise your own skills to much, you manged to make a huge truck slide on black ice. You should have known there would be black ice and driven appropriately, but instead I would daresay you were going to fast to begin with.
why should I have known about the ice? I rained breifly at 5am I was there 12 hours later... does rain not evaporate where you are from? Or is 12 hours not enough time on a busy interstate in your expert opinion?
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RE: Answered prayer
January 26, 2014 at 4:54 am
Who knows when your guardian angel is knocking about. Rain could become fire for all we know, and your car could sprout wings. Anything is possible in the world of fiction.
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed) (June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
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RE: Answered prayer
January 26, 2014 at 4:56 am
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show...p?t=124124
Just incase you did not read or understand how ice can form in 60*F weather.
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 7:06 am
I'm glad you and your wife are okay, Drich. I understood the joke in the original post, though the idea of praying for harm to come to someone is a lot like hoping for it, and I don't think I've ever hoped for anyone to die.
As for those who might have prayed, you guys might want to start a poll on which specific deity you offered prayers to, because you were SO CLOSE!!!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 7:06 am)Tonus Wrote: I'm glad you and your wife are okay, Drich. I understood the joke in the original post, though the idea of praying for harm to come to someone is a lot like hoping for it, and I don't think I've ever hoped for anyone to die.
As for those who might have prayed, you guys might want to start a poll on which specific deity you offered prayers to, because you were SO CLOSE!!!
If someone would tell me how to post these pics from an ipad I'd show you how close we came..
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 12:43 pm
(January 23, 2014 at 3:06 am)Drich Wrote: Well a few of you have apparently been praying to God even though you claim to be atheists. How do I know? God almost answered one of your prayers yesterday. My wife and I were coming onto the interstate, and there was a car carrier I front of me so I went around him. My truck kicked down into third gear at 60mph and the back tires broke loose. Meaning they started to spin, just the same as if I were trying to do a burn out. Idk if you all have done this at speed before but the car/truck acts quite differently at 60 verse coming off a complete stand still.
Well anyway the truck began to fish tale into the semi next to me and I corrected by turning into the power slide. And let off the gas. Then the truck caught and took us off into the center median, where the grass was very wet which made things like the steering wheel and brakes just something to help you occupy your time with while you wait for death as you slide into on coming traffic at speed. Thankfully there was a sloping embankment we had to bridge before we got to the on coming lane, when we hit it I thought the truck was going to flip, but it didn't. When we started up the other side I floored it spraying mud and rocks on the cars going the other way, then finally the rear tires caught and shot us back towards our orginal lane.
Thankfully the only damage out of the whole mess was to the tightywhities I was wearing (they were totaled) and I think my wife lost two or three years off the end of her life, but the truck was undamaged. So to whom ever has been praying for proof of God in the way of my death or my absence from this forum, I have received a message for you and you can stop now.
So presumably the hundreds of people who die in road accidents every year had it coming cos God didn't like them?
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 12:43 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 27, 2014 at 7:06 am)Tonus Wrote: I'm glad you and your wife are okay, Drich. I understood the joke in the original post, though the idea of praying for harm to come to someone is a lot like hoping for it, and I don't think I've ever hoped for anyone to die.
As for those who might have prayed, you guys might want to start a poll on which specific deity you offered prayers to, because you were SO CLOSE!!!
If someone would tell me how to post these pics from an ipad I'd show you how close we came..
As with all photos, you need to upload them to some image host.
On android, I have the photobucket app that does this, but on an ipad, I have no idea how to do it.... seems to exist: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/photobuc...19193?mt=8
Upload you photo. select it and copy the URL for that photo.
Paste it on your reply text box and we can see it.... don't forget the [img] tags... the photobucket app may provide those for you automatically.
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 12:50 pm
(January 26, 2014 at 4:52 am)Drich Wrote: (January 26, 2014 at 3:59 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Would not praise your own skills to much, you manged to make a huge truck slide on black ice. You should have known there would be black ice and driven appropriately, but instead I would daresay you were going to fast to begin with.
why should I have known about the ice? I rained breifly at 5am I was there 12 hours later... does rain not evaporate where you are from? Or is 12 hours not enough time on a busy interstate in your expert opinion?
If it was cold enough for ice then yes, you should been smart enough to realize that there maybe ice on the road. And at this time of year rain that hits the road does not evaporate where I come from it freezes. either way you were going something fast if you made a huge truck like that slide the way it did. I took my Hyundai through a blizzard last week and it never slid like that.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Answered prayer
January 27, 2014 at 1:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2014 at 1:26 pm by Drich.)
(January 27, 2014 at 12:43 pm)MitchBenn Wrote: (January 23, 2014 at 3:06 am)Drich Wrote: Well a few of you have apparently been praying to God even though you claim to be atheists. How do I know? God almost answered one of your prayers yesterday. My wife and I were coming onto the interstate, and there was a car carrier I front of me so I went around him. My truck kicked down into third gear at 60mph and the back tires broke loose. Meaning they started to spin, just the same as if I were trying to do a burn out. Idk if you all have done this at speed before but the car/truck acts quite differently at 60 verse coming off a complete stand still.
Well anyway the truck began to fish tale into the semi next to me and I corrected by turning into the power slide. And let off the gas. Then the truck caught and took us off into the center median, where the grass was very wet which made things like the steering wheel and brakes just something to help you occupy your time with while you wait for death as you slide into on coming traffic at speed. Thankfully there was a sloping embankment we had to bridge before we got to the on coming lane, when we hit it I thought the truck was going to flip, but it didn't. When we started up the other side I floored it spraying mud and rocks on the cars going the other way, then finally the rear tires caught and shot us back towards our orginal lane.
Thankfully the only damage out of the whole mess was to the tightywhities I was wearing (they were totaled) and I think my wife lost two or three years off the end of her life, but the truck was undamaged. So to whom ever has been praying for proof of God in the way of my death or my absence from this forum, I have received a message for you and you can stop now.
So presumably the hundreds of people who die in road accidents every year had it coming cos God didn't like them? What does God liking someone have to do whether you live or die?
In the end we all die, does that mean in your logic that God likes no one?
To God and his followers death is our birth into eternity. It is our home comming, not a punishment. It is only to be considered a bad thing if you are not right with God.
We lived, because our work here is not done.
(January 27, 2014 at 12:43 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: If someone would tell me how to post these pics from an ipad I'd show you how close we came..
As with all photos, you need to upload them to some image host.
On android, I have the photobucket app that does this, but on an ipad, I have no idea how to do it.... seems to exist: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/photobuc...19193?mt=8
Upload you photo. select it and copy the URL for that photo.
Paste it on your reply text box and we can see it.... don't forget the [img] tags... the photobucket app may provide those for you automatically.
I'll see what I can do after work.
(January 27, 2014 at 12:50 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (January 26, 2014 at 4:52 am)Drich Wrote: why should I have known about the ice? I rained breifly at 5am I was there 12 hours later... does rain not evaporate where you are from? Or is 12 hours not enough time on a busy interstate in your expert opinion?
If it was cold enough for ice then yes, you should been smart enough to realize that there maybe ice on the road. And at this time of year rain that hits the road does not evaporate where I come from it freezes. either way you were going something fast if you made a huge truck like that slide the way it did. I took my Hyundai through a blizzard last week and it never slid like that. Do you not know how the Fahrenheit scale works? 32*F is the point where water freezes it is the same as saying 0*C. Now if the temp is 30+ degrees above freezing is their a resonable expectation that the road does not have ice on it? Not to mention in 25+ years of driving this area there has NEVER been a time where their was ice on the roads. I think it was the mid to late 80's the last time the roads froze. Blackice refers to oil that gets washed out between the cracks of the asphault. Can't see it and you wouldn't know it is there unit you can control your truck/car.
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