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Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
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RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Cato Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 12:40 pm)Heywood Wrote: ....

You are proving yourself to be pretty fucking shallow.

Are still proving? Have not yet proven beyond any shadow of the least doubt many times before?

Huh
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#12
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 12:40 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 12:28 pm)elconquistador Wrote: Anyways, just wish my father would hear me out and respect me and my decisions and acknowledge my concerns.

In the mean time, I live with out a father because I'm atheist.

You ridiculed his beliefs and called him a coward....and you expect him to respect you?

You need to learn some tact.

No, someone needs to learn how to read into a situation.



OP, Mormonism is a bitch. If it were me I'd let some time pass, and give myself some down time to get your situation figured out before I approached the family issue again, but that's just what I'd do.
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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#13
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Elskidor Wrote: So was he blaming the no job thing on the losing the Jesus thing?

Precisely. I'm on a quick road to nowhere according to him.

(June 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 12:40 pm)Heywood Wrote: You ridiculed his beliefs and called him a coward....and you expect him to respect you?

You need to learn some tact.

No, someone needs to learn how to read into a situation.



OP, Mormonism is a bitch. If it were me I'd let some time pass, and give myself some down time to get your situation figured out before I approached the family issue again, but that's just what I'd do.

Thank you. Smile

(June 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 12:44 pm)elconquistador Wrote: You have no fucking clue. Did you not read the back story and my situation right now? Fuck you.

Yeah...fuck you too. You call your dad a coward and call his God a Skydaddy and you think that's going to build a relationship with him? You're a dumbass. Your father disowned you because you were being a dick to him.....not because you are an atheist.

Next time just tell him your happier without religion and leave it at that(if that's the case). Thank him for inviting you back but respectfully decline. Maybe....let him know you love him.

Did you think to ask me if I had already done that? Countless times? Many many times?! Go away. Just go away. Like every theist, you'll assume the answer before you've asked the appropriate questions. Congratulations on contributing to the world's stupidity. Clap

(June 3, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Raeven Wrote: You've done an amazing and difficult thing. You've escaped utter indoctrination. Many people can't, and it sounds like your dad is among those. For now, it sounds like you're going to have to live as though he is dead to you. There is no common ground at this point.

I don't know where you live, but it sounds like you need a network of support, and fast. I know I found a fantastic group of atheist friends through a Meet Up group. Ours is affiliated with Center for Inquiry - Skeptics. You might do a search for something similar through Meet Up and learn if there is a group near you. I know the biggest thing the formerly-religious folks who belong to my group miss is a sense of community that a church provides. The difference is, the Skeptic group comes with no strings attached. As you pointed out, they like you just because you're you. They may also be able to help you network for a new job and/or housing.

I'm sorry your dad is not going to be there for you at a time of your great need, but he obviously can't. His help comes with some pretty big strings attached. I don't think you can go back.

Best to you, and please keep us posted going forward.

Thank you so much. It's incredibly difficult. And you're right, I need to invest more time into a network. I'll be meeting up with them on Saturday and I'll be getting real involved. I'll keep y'all posted.
"Just call me Bruce Wayne. I'd rather be Batman."
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RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm)elconquistador Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Elskidor Wrote: So was he blaming the no job thing on the losing the Jesus thing?

Precisely. I'm on a quick road to nowhere according to him.

(June 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote: No, someone needs to learn how to read into a situation.



OP, Mormonism is a bitch. If it were me I'd let some time pass, and give myself some down time to get your situation figured out before I approached the family issue again, but that's just what I'd do.

Thank you. Smile

(June 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Heywood Wrote: Yeah...fuck you too. You call your dad a coward and call his God a Skydaddy and you think that's going to build a relationship with him? You're a dumbass. Your father disowned you because you were being a dick to him.....not because you are an atheist.

Next time just tell him your happier without religion and leave it at that(if that's the case). Thank him for inviting you back but respectfully decline. Maybe....let him know you love him.

Did you think to ask me if I had already done that? Countless times? Many many times?! Go away. Just go away. Like every theist, you'll assume the answer before you've asked the appropriate questions. Congratulations on contributing to the world's stupidity. Clap

I hope things work out between you and your dad. They won't if you continue to call him names and ridicule his beliefs.
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RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: I hope things work out between you and your dad. They won't if you continue to call him names and ridicule his beliefs.

Does Hallmark make a card thanking parents for a lifetime of psychologically damaging indoctrination?

Mormons deserve to have their beliefs ridiculed because they are ridiculous. More importantly, they should be chastised and admonished for supporting a suffocating system of control over its members, particularly children. You have absolutely no fucking clue what's being discussed. All you have is your misplaced fealty for the fifth commandment.
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#16
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Heywood Wrote: Yeah...fuck you too. You call your dad a coward and call his God a Skydaddy and you think that's going to build a relationship with him? You're a dumbass. Your father disowned you because you were being a dick to him.....not because you are an atheist.

Oh go fuck yourself, you cannot even comprehend the situation he is an at the moment. Parents don't disown their children because they are rude. The only reasons they are arguing in the first place is because of his families ridiculous religious beliefs and their intolerance towards anything else. They have a problem with him, they can't accept him for what he is. Don't bother commenting on this thread again, you don't have the first clue what you are talking about.
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#17
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: I hope things work out between you and your dad. They won't if you continue to call him names and ridicule his beliefs.

I have ridiculed my dad's beliefs plenty of times, he never even remotely gone to the extreme The OP's did. I do live in a far away place, so yeah..

This idiot that I'm quoting is right and doesn't even knows how. He is your dad, be the better man and reach your hand out to him, no good in harboring hatreds.
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#18
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
(June 3, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Cato Wrote:
(June 3, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: I hope things work out between you and your dad. They won't if you continue to call him names and ridicule his beliefs.

Does Hallmark make a card thanking parents for a lifetime of psychologically damaging indoctrination?

Mormons deserve to have their beliefs ridiculed because they are ridiculous. More importantly, they should be chastised and admonished for supporting a suffocating system of control over its members, particularly children. You have absolutely no fucking clue what's being discussed. All you have is your misplaced fealty for the fifth commandment.

It doesn't matter if Mormonism deserves to be ridiculed. Ridiculing your dad's beliefs and calling him names isn't an effective tactic at building a relationship with him.
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#19
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
Joseph Smith: busting up families for 180 years, with the least amount of talent for a charlatan, possibly in all time.


Angry
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#20
RE: Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist
I empathize with your plight. I have a similar situation that I have posted about before. I was nice, polite, and ignored all the snide remarks and passive aggressiveness with as much humility as I could. After a while you can't take it any more and forthright honesty is the only recourse available to you. Once you do this, it automatically becomes your fault, as you "ridiculed" their beliefs(see previous posts in this thread). If you need anything, don't hesitate to vent in my direction, as I am sure most on this forum will tell you the same. I applaud you for your efforts as I know how hard it is.
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