Father Disowned Me Because I'm Still Atheist

[Fidel_Castronaut]

No. Why, are you? I don't remember saying that


A believer who also happens to be his father.

Again, not willing to absolve the father of anything on this one. Religious beliefs shouldn't matter one iota to a relationship.

Nor am I Mr Castro, not at all, but your last sentence would only hold true to one who doesn't hold a religious belief, to not understand that is naive in the extreme.

Please, supreme leader will suffice.

But please don't accuse me of naivety. I'm well aware of how the world works. Should is an ideal, and it's an inescapable fact using guilt to build a relationship isn't going to work. Ever. It will always fail at some level. Now maybe the son is guilty of a lot of things. I'm not going to disagree, but starting off a relationship with guilt is not one of them.

I read the first few pages of reactions to this and was shocked, because someone is religious, or holds a belief we all cannot understand, the mob mentality of most on here was genuinely disturbing.

Means nothing to me.

That's his Dad...mine threatened to kick me out of the house, told me to get a job, attempted to blackmail me to get me to do what he want, the only thing missing was a religion, It's what Dad's do.

I'm sorry to hear that.

The reaction on here to this Mormon father is really quite astounding, based on an email conversation.... quite akin to a Muslim and their thoughts on the infidel.

Quite apart from him wanting to get his son to Church, I also read the concerns of a loving Dad.

Where he said they still loved him? And where he asks how his job search is going?

Indeed. I agree. Still doesn't detract from the initial guilt trip which, unfortunately, makes everything after that redundant.

[Hoopington]

Nor am I Mr Castro, not at all, but your last sentence would only hold true to one who doesn't hold a religious belief, to not understand that is naive in the extreme.

Please, supreme leader will suffice.

But please don't accuse me of naivety. I'm well aware of how the world works. Should is an ideal, and it's an inescapable fact using guilt to build a relationship isn't going to work. Ever. It will always fail at some level. Now maybe the son is guilty of a lot of things. I'm not going to disagree, but starting off a relationship with guilt is not one of them.

I read the first few pages of reactions to this and was shocked, because someone is religious, or holds a belief we all cannot understand, the mob mentality of most on here was genuinely disturbing.

Means nothing to me.

That's his Dad...mine threatened to kick me out of the house, told me to get a job, attempted to blackmail me to get me to do what he want, the only thing missing was a religion, It's what Dad's do.

I'm sorry to hear that.

The reaction on here to this Mormon father is really quite astounding, based on an email conversation.... quite akin to a Muslim and their thoughts on the infidel.

Quite apart from him wanting to get his son to Church, I also read the concerns of a loving Dad.

Where he said they still loved him? And where he asks how his job search is going?

Indeed. I agree. Still doesn't detract from the initial guilt trip which, unfortunately, makes everything after that redundant.

So black and white supreme leader, what a wonderful world you must live in.

Bon chance.

[naimless]

cool story bro

[Fidel_Castronaut]

So black and white supreme leader, what a wonderful world you must live in.

Bon chance.

I don't see how that responds to anything I said so I'll conclude it as un-responsive.

mais merci

[Hoopington]

You do with it as you wish supreme leader.

Bonus du douche, mange tout.

My french is a little rusty.
Bonus shower, eats everything?

[Heywood]

Oh I see. Heywood thinks we evil atheists are just giving hateful advice just to be assholes! He has no idea we have merely identified an abuser and counseled the victim to protect themselves.

I don't think atheists are evil. If any of my kids became an atheist, I'd be quite surprised if it changed our relationship.

But some people here clearly believe that some relationships are not worth maintaining and this is one of them. You know who you are.

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I'm really sorry to say, regardless of belief, you were bang out of line in my opinion.

That's your Dad mate, he didn't insult your beliefs, you insulted his. He seems more concerned with the fact that you're unemployed.

I haven't agreed with much I've read that Heywood has come out with, but on this score he's right, you need to learn some tact.

"We would love to have had you at the temple with us. Im sorry that you feel that you have to publicly shame your family on Facebook. We still love you and you can always return. His arms are outstretched still. The last thing you mentioned was guilt.... If there is so much guilt, it's because you know you are doing something you should not... And you need to understand the atonement. It covers everything. "

When I read his father's opening comments I can't but read "guilt trip".

Is guilt tripping one's son because of his beliefs really the best way to open your arms to a relationship? Fault appears to be on both sides but I don't think we should absolve the father of some major issues here.

Yes, the father was laying down a guilt trip and the OP needs to deal with it. He can deal with it in the non productive way that he did....by trying to hurt the father back. Or he can simply demand some respect. Let his father know he loves him, but they will not have much of a relationship if he continues to behave this way.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

You do with it as you wish supreme leader.

Bonus du douche, mange tout.

My french is a little rusty.
Bonus shower, eats everything?

First thing I thought of when you said that was Only Fools and Horses? Don't know if you're British or if you've even heard of that, heh. 'mange tout, mange tout'

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"We would love to have had you at the temple with us. Im sorry that you feel that you have to publicly shame your family on Facebook. We still love you and you can always return. His arms are outstretched still. The last thing you mentioned was guilt.... If there is so much guilt, it's because you know you are doing something you should not... And you need to understand the atonement. It covers everything. "

When I read his father's opening comments I can't but read "guilt trip".

Is guilt tripping one's son because of his beliefs really the best way to open your arms to a relationship? Fault appears to be on both sides but I don't think we should absolve the father of some major issues here.

Yes, the father was laying down a guilt trip and the OP needs to deal with it. He can deal with it in the non productive way that he did....by trying to hurt the father back. Or he can simply demand some respect. Let his father know he loves him, but they will not have much of a relationship if he continues to behave this way.

I think I would agree with that sentiment.

I still can't blame the OP for being angry, though. He did nothing wrong to warrant the situation he was put in.

[Hoopington]

My french is a little rusty.
Bonus shower, eats everything?

First thing I thought of when you said that was Only Fools and Horses? Don't know if you're British or if you've even heard of that, heh. 'mange tout, mange tout'

Indeed it is Monsieur Castronaut, as you've heard of it, you're a Brit yourself?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

First thing I thought of when you said that was Only Fools and Horses? Don't know if you're British or if you've even heard of that, heh. 'mange tout, mange tout'

Indeed it is Monsieur Castronaut, as you've heard of it, you're a Brit yourself?

I am sir, I am Hailing from the beautiful West Midlands (well, born in London).

[Dragonetti]

The father is using the guilt trip technique. This form of emotional manipulation is a form of emotional abuse. The father should be ashamed of himself. No, father should ever force their child into those types of situations. OP is a grown up, and he can think for himself.

Religious nut wads have to use coercion to spread their beliefs. The father should only care if the child grows up health and happy.