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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:49 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:12 am)Esquilax Wrote: Are you against slavery? I know you took a stance against rape victims not being able to get abortions, but are you also in favor of forcibly marrying them to their rapist?
If the answer to either of those questions is no, then you do ignore things in the bible. If the answer is yes, then none of us give a damn about the abhorrent moral positions the bible makes you take.
I am against modern day slavery and rape.
A bit of a dodge of the questions, but still very revealing about your morality. Please don't tell me you're gonna tell us how slavery in the Bible is okay because it's not like slavery in America during the 18th and 19th century. Also, respond to what Esqui said about rapists marrying their victims. Are you okay with forcing the woman to marry her rapist?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm
I was reading Bible quotes and from what i understand it was a punishment for the man rather than the woman.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:52 pm
So you're okay with it?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:53 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the main reason I am undecided is because recently a friend admitted to me that he was gay and to be honest it was a shock. I didn't know what to say and nearly a year later I am still trying to work out what to say.
There is nothing wrong with being gay, you know. You don't really have the right to be "shocked". It's his life. He should drop you for your bigotry.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:53 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the main reason I am undecided is because recently a friend admitted to me that he was gay and to be honest it was a shock. I didn't know what to say and nearly a year later I am still trying to work out what to say.
There is nothing wrong with being gay, you know. You don't really have the right to be "shocked". It's his life. He should drop you for your bigotry.
No I was more shocked because we were talking about home and then he said he was gay. The sudden subject change added to the shock.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I was reading Bible quotes and from what i understand it was a punishment for the man rather than the woman.
So forcing a woman to marry her rapist isn't punishment for the woman?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm
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(October 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I was reading Bible quotes and from what i understand it was a punishment for the man rather than the woman.
Oh, well in that case, Ill take a flat one, two pointy ones and a bag of gravel.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 12:56 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 12:53 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: There is nothing wrong with being gay, you know. You don't really have the right to be "shocked". It's his life. He should drop you for your bigotry.
No I was more shocked because we were talking about home and then he said he was gay. The sudden subject change added to the shock.
Gonna have to press you for an answer here. Do you think it's okay to force a woman to marry her rapist "as punishment for the man", as you put it?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 1:03 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 12:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No I was more shocked because we were talking about home and then he said he was gay. The sudden subject change added to the shock.
Gonna have to press you for an answer here. Do you think it's okay to force a woman to marry her rapist "as punishment for the man", as you put it?
At the time the father had a choice over whether he gave his daughter to be married to the rapist, he could refuse.
If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride-price for virgins.Exodus 22:17
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 1:03 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 12:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Gonna have to press you for an answer here. Do you think it's okay to force a woman to marry her rapist "as punishment for the man", as you put it?
At the time the father had a choice over whether he gave his daughter to be married to the rapist, he could refuse.
If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride-price for virgins.Exodus 22:17
If the father was okay with it, he could force his daughter to marry her rapist. Are you okay with that?
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